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It still pissed me off the way Lovie sat on the ball to end regulation


It seems that Lovie and his staff coach scared when the game gets tight. Almost like playing not to lose. That end of the game crap was absolute chicken shit.

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It still pissed me off the way Lovie sat on the ball to end regulation


It seems that Lovie and his staff coach scared when the game gets tight. Almost like playing not to lose. That end of the game crap was absolute chicken shit.


How about the chicken shit defense at the end? Three TD's in three minutes, I know one was the result of a turnover but the other two were awful. It may be the result of injuries and guys not staying in their gaps. But how do you give up two long pass plays in the cover two? This is a one and done team right now.

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Ricky Manning Jr.....slow.

Maybe the Bears were playing Prevent (a blowout) D.

I don't think the Bears are one and done, this game may have given the Bears a dose of reality that all games are not to be taken lightly.

This game may help the Bears in the long run.

But then again, I have been drinking.

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Never thought that the Bears defense would ever come under scrutiny this season. :?


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Never thought that the Bears defense would ever come under scrutiny this season. :?


They've been above the fray for most of the season, so it is about time.

This game pissed me off, but I still have faith in the O and D to get things done.

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After today's performance, I'm preparing for a long, angry Sunday afternoon in January.<sigh>

At least American Idol is coming back!! :wink: :roll:

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The strength of the defense early was the depth of the line. Now with the Harris injury and the trials of Machine Gun Johnson, they are very thin. I think the breakdown in the fourth quarter was a result of fatigue and inexperience. Guys are learning new roles and that takes a little time. There were numerous breakdowns in the secondary also. This defense is not a championship defense right now. It might be by the time the playoffs start, at least I hope it is.

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I think we may see this for the next two games. These next two games are against "tomato cans" as Uncle Fuzzy says, so we may see another couple of lacadaisical performances before the playoffs.

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I'm not sure the defense was "lackadaisacal". I laugh when I hear players say "they didn't come to play today" or BS like that. That is an all too often heard refrain of players and coaches who don't want to admit they aren't very good. It is just so arrogant to believe that when they come to play they can't be beaten. BS. Let's face facts. The secondary is the weakest link on the team. It's amazing that Matt Leinart and Tim Rattay would be the QBs to expose it the most, though Bulger worked it over pretty good too. The big plays in the passing game today looked like the Carolina game all over again. You can wish and hope they will "be fine" or you can accept the reality that this secondary can and will be torched.


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Yes, Grossman is playing better now, but it is only because the coaches told him to play "not to lose" in order to obtain home field throughout the playoffs. There is no telling what the Gunslinger will do when the pressures of "one and done" possibilities come into play.


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The secondary tried, with what they have, but the biggest weakness was the pressure...or lack thereof. Even when Ulrlacher had the banging blitz, their QB completed the pass. That guy had ALL freakin' day to pass.

The game was won by the typically maligned recievers. Sure Moose let one go between his hands, but Rashid Davis more than made up for that by catching a way goofy ball thrown by Rex in OT. I think it was Clark's moves more than Rex's passes that made things happen. Rex still throws the deep ball into double coverage too much.


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The secondary tried, with what they have, but the biggest weakness was the pressure...or lack thereof. Even when Ulrlacher had the banging blitz, their QB completed the pass. That guy had ALL freakin' day to pass.

Yup. This was the cause of the problem; the fact that the receiver was able to just continue on into the endzone was a case of the secondary compounding the original problem. Give an NFL QB that much time, and he'll complete passes; enough completions, and the secondary is bound to eff it up.

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Agreed that Rex played very well today and there was nothing "goofy" about his throws. Sitting on the ball with 1:10 on the clock and three timeouts does show you what kind of confidence Lovie REALLY has in him, though. They say they're all about building confidence for Rex, but by not giving him the chance for a game winning drive (probably the last chance he'll have before the playoffs), they're taking away from his development. It was the PERFECT opportunity to see what he's got, and they let the clock run out and ate the timeouts. Gutless. Clueless.

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Maybe Lovie was thinking they were back too far and didn't want Rex to lose any confidence by turning the ball over.


I'm really getting fed up with this rationale. Is Rex a starting NFL QB, or a six year old trying to learn how to ride his bike without training wheels? I've never seen an athlete coddled so much. "Poor Rex, and his fragile psyche." Either this guy has what it takes to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl or he doesn't. Personally, I would've rather found out today, as opposed to a cold January night vs. Dallas or New Orleans. Call me crazy.

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Rex played a very good game. If you missed it, that's on you....

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The secondary tried, with what they have, but the biggest weakness was the pressure...or lack thereof. Even when Ulrlacher had the banging blitz, their QB completed the pass. That guy had ALL freakin' day to pass.

The game was won by the typically maligned recievers. Sure Moose let one go between his hands, but Rashid Davis more than made up for that by catching a way goofy ball thrown by Rex in OT. I think it was Clark's moves more than Rex's passes that made things happen. Rex still throws the deep ball into double coverage too much.


I'm with Nas, that ball was very cleverly thrown. I think what you were looking at there was finally a clutch move by Rex. Had to get that ball to your WR, it was OT, and he delivered. Very nice performance by Rex.

I still can't believe the game was that close...after watching my team back their way into a divisional title...I was looking at the Bears saying...See? This is what a good team does! Take care of bus--

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The game was won by the typically maligned recievers. Sure Moose let one go between his hands, but Rashid Davis more than made up for that by catching a way goofy ball thrown by Rex in OT. I think it was Clark's moves more than Rex's passes that made things happen. Rex still throws the deep ball into double coverage too much.


Clark's moves? Who threw the touchdown passes to him? Did his moves help him catch the ball? How was the pass to Davis "goofy"? He threw the ball where only Davis could catch it. He did throw one pass in double coverage to Berrian and fortunately the defenders ran into each other. As usual Berrian didn't do anything to stop them from catching the ball


LOL. Clarks moves.. That's funny. Moose is supposed to be the go to recever. What do you mean "sure" he let one go thorugh his hands? It has happened all to often this year. The first TD pass to Clark was because of his moves? You're one funny guy.


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I pissed a couple of times during the game but I can't believe I missed them putting Hester on offense. When did this happen?


Nas, Hester was out there for one play that I saw in the first half. Barber (I think) was on him and jumped the route since I'm sure he knew he was either running a slant or fly and as soon as Hester took a step to the inside, Barber jumped it and nearly picked it. Seeing that I thought if you could do a hitch and go type route (don't really know if they run that in the NFL but it works great on the playground), he'd probably blow by someone.

I thought the Davis throw was a good decision since I think it was 3rd and 7 and you are not really losing much if it is picked. Good risk/reward decision.

I am ready to proclaim Devin Hester the "Rex Grossman of kick returners". It's feast or famine games with him. I may be inclined to rescind my earlier comments and let him just focus on returns and D and forget the offense. Not because he's too stupid, but because it may be taking too much of his focus away from what he really needs to do. But, let's try the O one more week. :D

I'm not too concerned with the D on this game. I think the team got up big and thought the regular season was basically over and started coasting. The Hester fumble made it a game and caught everyone off guard. They were dominant up until midway through the 3rd quarter and probably thought the game was over.

I'm not freaking out because I saw the rest of the NFC playing yesterday and I'm not scared.

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Yes, Grossman is playing better now, but it is only because the coaches told him to play "not to lose" in order to obtain home field throughout the playoffs. There is no telling what the Gunslinger will do when the pressures of "one and done" possibilities come into play.


I've never seen a QB throw 300 yds not to lose.... :roll:


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Yes, Grossman is playing better now, but it is only because the coaches told him to play "not to lose" in order to obtain home field throughout the playoffs. There is no telling what the Gunslinger will do when the pressures of "one and done" possibilities come into play.


I've never seen a QB throw 300 yds not to lose.... :roll:


To go back to the 1.3 rating game thread.. we can now officially put the "Rex has never thrown for 300 yards in a game" argument out to pasture. No need to worry.. we can still argue that he's too short.. too slow.. too skittish.. too impatient.


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Rex has never thrown a touchdown in the playoffs


He threw one last year.

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To go back to the 1.3 rating game thread.. we can now officially put the "Rex has never thrown for 300 yards in a game" argument out to pasture.

I think he played well yesterday, and I believe he's the guy no matter what at this point. That said, I don't know about the above comment; it took him an overtime to get 300 yards.

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Did he? I know he led them to three scoring drives but I thought they all ended up being rushing touchdowns.


19/41, 1 TD, 1 INT, 192 yards.

He was very bad in the first half and decent in the 2nd half.

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I think he played well yesterday, and I believe he's the guy no matter what at this point. That said, I don't know about the above comment; it took him an overtime to get 300 yards.


Matt is right again :wink: Rex only had 294 yards in 4 quarters. We have to put an asterisk next to this 300 yard game.


I have to admit.. I posted just to see if Matt would respond.. and thanks Matt.. between Nas' response and your post, you've made my day..


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I think he played well yesterday, and I believe he's the guy no matter what at this point. That said, I don't know about the above comment; it took him an overtime to get 300 yards.


Matt is right again :wink: Rex only had 294 yards in 4 quarters. We have to put an asterisk next to this 300 yard game.


I have to admit.. I posted just to see if Matt would respond.. and thanks Matt.. between Nas' response and your post, you've made my day..

Of course I did. Just read what I say, and be entertained and informed at the same time. ;)

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rex played a good game. thumbs up for getting clark back in to the game. very disappointed they didn't go for a score at the end of the game but we got the win and that's all that counts.


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Sitting on the ball with 1:10 on the clock and three timeouts does show you what kind of confidence Lovie REALLY has in him, though


Did anybody hear an explaination for this decision?


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Did anybody hear an explaination for this decision?


Lovie cited the holding penalty on the kick off as the biggest determining factor, which backed them up to the 10. He didn't want to risk something bad happening (Read: a Rex F up).

I still say let the kid see what he can do.

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Agreed. I have a feeling the playoffs are going to be nerve racking.


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