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George's answering machine (to Greatest American hero)>Oasis :wink:

Nice post there Jeff

:D :D :D .....believe it or not. :D

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Noel is better.


some his lyrics are about as brain dead as you can get, RPB. please.

i don't know why you are the one who keeps mentioning the books written on "seinfeld" as if that's what i'm 100% standing by. i'd say they support my very right claims about what it is, and you're just not giving the show its due credit. i just love how people like you always say i "look too deep" into things, seeming to forget i'm a writer. that's exactly what writers are supposed to do. why don't you listen to what jerry and larry say about how they came up with the show and its plots and see how much effort went into it, instead of thinking they're just two funny guys who wound up writing a good show. that's pretty condescending.


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Let's get back on track here. Mac sucks.

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Let's get back on track here. Fleetwood Mac sucks.

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If its after Peter Green, that I can agree with, Jeff.

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:D :D :D .....believe it or not. :D

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Noel is better.


some his lyrics are about as brain dead as you can get, RPB. please.

i don't know why you are the one who keeps mentioning the books written on "seinfeld" as if that's what i'm 100% standing by. i'd say they support my very right claims about what it is, and you're just not giving the show its due credit. i just love how people like you always say i "look too deep" into things, seeming to forget i'm a writer. that's exactly what writers are supposed to do. why don't you listen to what jerry and larry say about how they came up with the show and its plots and see how much effort went into it, instead of thinking they're just two funny guys who wound up writing a good show. that's pretty condescending.

Its not condescending, its most likely reality. The thing is I dont know. You dont know.

Now I could be right or you could be right. Its art so we really wont know. (Imagine Larry and Jerry misremembering or being liberal with facts when discussing how they came up with the show PERISH THE THOUGHT)

Youre the one who threw the books out in your original post. Im not sure what those authors over analyzing Seinfeld has to do with the actual meaning.

Im sorry, Zack. I dont look at you as a writer. I dont look at you as "not a writer" either, but I defintiely dont think "Z's a writer, he has to think that way"


Did you just call Noel Gallagher's lyrics brain dead, while arguing someone who wrote Song #2 and an entire album of bad space analogies?


Anyways, IMO Oasis is better and Seinfeld was simple. Then again, im not a writer. :wink:


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an opinion from anyone who plays an instrument or is in a band and thinks that because they "know" music more than the next guy their opinion carries more weight < everyone else's opinion


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an opinion from anyone who plays an instrument or is in a band and thinks that because they "know" music more than the next guy their opinion carries more weight < everyone else's opinion

Does that transfer over to writers on Tv opinions?

Seems like it would.


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an opinion from anyone who plays an instrument or is in a band and thinks that because they "know" music more than the next guy their opinion carries more weight < everyone else's opinion

Women's professional beach volleyball > Tour de France

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The Beatles had Sgt Peppers...the Beach Boys had Pet Sounds...what was the Stones groundbreaking musical composition???


Exile On Main Street


Not even in the team photo. No one ever mentions Exile on Main Street in the same breath with Sgt Peppers & Pet Sounds. Certainly not me.

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I would posit that people who listen to music for the lyrics are doing it wrong .....

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an opinion from anyone who plays an instrument or is in a band and thinks that because they "know" music more than the next guy their opinion carries more weight < everyone else's opinion

Women's professional beach volleyball > Tour de France


NO! i love cycling and i think that i know more about it than you, so you are wrong!


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Youre the one who threw the books out in your original post. Im not sure what those authors over analyzing Seinfeld has to do with the actual meaning.


they're not overanalyzing, they're bringing some interesting things to light. same thing happened with "the simpsons". i brought them up just to back up my claim that i'm not the only one who thinks this way.

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yeah well i don't know what to tell you. you've seen my movie reviews and i'm clearly an analytical person. so maybe you should keep that in mind in the future.


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Did you just call Noel Gallagher's lyrics brain dead, while arguing someone who wrote Song #2 and an entire album of bad space analogies?


"song #2" was meant to be as bland as it was. it was a joke song. you didn't know that? albarn is known to be a cynic, and a lot of his songs are satirical (just about all of "the great escape", which he claims is one of his worst albums strangely).

where do you get the "bad space analogies"?

keep in mind, RPB, i'm just ribbing you on the "i'm right" thing. but you have to know by now that i think on more levels than just the surface.


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I love The Beatles, but people went apeshit over David Cassidy, Bay City Rollers, New Kids On The Block, and the Spice Girls. I don't think 14 year old girls are the best qualifier of talent.


Sure, but no one was influenced by David Cassidy, Bay City Rollers, New Kids On The Block, and the Spice Girls...at least no one who was any good!

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Not even in the team photo. No one ever mentions Exile on Main Street in the same breath with Sgt Peppers & Pet Sounds. Certainly not me.

I'm far from being a Beatles fan, but you are right on this IMO. Exile is the Stones' most put together album, but it was them doing what they do. There was nothing groundbreaking about the album.

Sgt Peppers and Pet Sounds were far more expirimental risks that each band was willing to take because they were at the height of their success, and even if the albums were shit, they would have sold.

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Yup. Fantastic.

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NO! i love cycling and i think that i know more about it than you, so you are wrong!

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an opinion from anyone who plays an instrument or is in a band and thinks that because they "know" music more than the next guy their opinion carries more weight < everyone else's opinion

I suppose you don't ride a bicyle then.

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Zack, might be right.

I might be wrong.

I dont like how Zack presents his opinions as more valuable.

I studied Media and Journalism too. I even wrote a pilot (not that good). But I dont think my opinion has more creedence than John Q Tvwatcher.

I just dont think Art works that way.

But its 310 and time has been sufficiently killed so, thats all i have to say about that.


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But its 310 and time has been sufficiently killed so, thats all i have to say about that.


then my plan worked! :D

it's ok, bryan. i get the feeling most people don't like my opinions anyway. but that doesn't deter me. :wink:


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Youre the one who threw the books out in your original post. Im not sure what those authors over analyzing Seinfeld has to do with the actual meaning.


they're not overanalyzing, they're bringing some interesting things to light. same thing happened with "the simpsons". i brought them up just to back up my claim that i'm not the only one who thinks this way.

I kinda answered this already in between our posts.


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[yeah well i don't know what to tell you. you've seen my movie reviews and i'm clearly an analytical person. so maybe you should keep that in mind in the future.

Why? Why does that make you different?
Should I look at Free Ajents posts from an adulterer's point of view?

I take posts at face value.

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Did you just call Noel Gallagher's lyrics brain dead, while arguing someone who wrote Song #2 and an entire album of bad space analogies?


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No, I thought Woo Hoo was the best he could do.

Just odd that you would use Brain dead. I mean, couldnt some of Noels so called brain dead lyrics be satirical? Or did Blur invent Satire?

Do you think Supersonic isnt satirical?

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Albarn is known to be a cynic, and a lot of his songs are satirical (just about all of "the great escape", which he claims is one of his worst albums strangely).

where do you get the "bad space analogies"?

Modern life is Rubbish

and so is that album

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[keep in mind, RPB, i'm just ribbing you on the "i'm right" thing. but you have to know by now that i think on more levels than just the surface.

You are not unique in that. Writers are not unique in that.

The Saints are fuckin embarrassing BTW.
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Oh and Rod Stewart covered Oasis, so...most of this is moot


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an opinion from anyone who plays an instrument or is in a band and thinks that because they "know" music more than the next guy their opinion carries more weight < everyone else's opinion

I suppose you don't ride a bicyle then.

sure i do. whats that got to do with anything?


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Just odd that you would use Brain dead. I mean, couldnt some of Noels so called brain dead lyrics be satirical? Or did Blur invent Satire?


I don't think Noel writes stuff to be ironic, no. Some of the lyrics in "Lyla", "Wonderwall", and "She's Electric", etc. are just bland...blah.

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not really. but it's an example of him using a beatles reference, like in "morning glory" and "the shock of the lightning".

and i'm also not a fan of "modern life is rubbish" really. i think i've only listened to it twice.

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RPB, where did i say i was unique in that? i said that's who i am. is that hard to understand?

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i already covered that, thanks.


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I suppose you don't ride a bicyle then.

sure i do. whats that got to do with anything?

Might as well not waste your time posting about the Tour De France then. Since you ride a bike, your opnion < everyone else's on the matter.

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Might as well not waste your time posting about the Tour De France then. Since you ride a bike, your opnion < everyone else's on the matter.

except i was posting stage results and congratulations to riders, which really weren't opinion.


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Giving congrats to a doper as well.

Either way, your original comment was quite boneheaded. Just living up to your moniker once again.

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Not even in the team photo. No one ever mentions Exile on Main Street in the same breath with Sgt Peppers & Pet Sounds. Certainly not me.

I'm far from being a Beatles fan, but you are right on this IMO. Exile is the Stones' most put together album, but it was them doing what they do. There was nothing groundbreaking about the album.

Sgt Peppers and Pet Sounds were far more expirimental risks that each band was willing to take because they were at the height of their success, and even if the albums were shit, they would have sold.



I can give you that. But the four album string of Let It Bleed, Beggar's Banquet, Sticky Fingers, and Exile was pretty damn impressive IMO.

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I can give you that. But the four album string of Let It Bleed, Beggar's Banquet, Sticky Fingers, and Exile was pretty damn impressive IMO.

I completely agree with you. Exile is one of my favorite albums of all time, and Let it Bleed is right up there.

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