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I listened to him this morning on my way to the gym and heard most of the interview with Kenny Williams. He actually sounded like he prepared for it and wasn't shooting off the cuff as usual. Maybe he made a new years resolution to actually prepare for interviews.


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I agree Hawkeye. I'd also add that I was happy to hear that Tom Dore will be a regular contributor. Not that he is the best "expert" out there, but as a Bulls fan I am glad they're getting a little air play again. :D


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I'd rather just have David Schuster (SP??) on after every Bulls game or to preview each game than Dore - Dore sounds like a nice guy, but he's a puppet, and I can't stand 'The Body' reference.

I thought the interview with Williams was very good - I didn't like how he excused Williams trades by saying he's got a '15 year honeymoon' since he won a WS. Granted, he was probably joking some, and no doubt Williams does deserve the benefit of doubt, but is that the best analysis he can come up with when discussing the two major move the White Sox have made ???

Overall, good interview today though - give credit where it's due.


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I thought North actually probed a bit into Williams into why he traded McCarthy. He finally got it out of him that Williams felt he wasn't the right pitcher for the ballpark. He also started driving him talking about center field and if Williams took a look at rowand again. In between the occasional joke, North actually delivered a good interview.


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
I thought North actually probed a bit into Williams into why he traded McCarthy. He finally got it out of him that Williams felt he wasn't the right pitcher for the ballpark. He also started driving him talking about center field and if Williams took a look at rowand again. In between the occasional joke, North actually delivered a good interview.


I found it interesting that Williams made such a point of talking about finding pitchers who could do well at home - previously, we haven't heard Kenny talk much about this, and it all seemed to go back to fastball's with movement, something that McCarthy really didn't offer.


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Dore is a dumb moron. He's a Bulls yes man and he can't analyze anything. You ask him what the Bulls need to do to win and he'll say...

"The Bulls need to make shots and stop the other team from making shots."

I'm not kidding he says this all of the time. The guy just strikes me as a complete idiot.


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Probably would have better served to get Stacey King as the call in analyst. I think he's really learning on the fly and is starting to bring items to the table. Well, since the other station has Skiles locked up, this was the next best thing.


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Probably would have better served to get Stacey King as the call in analyst. I think he's really learning on the fly and is starting to bring items to the table. Well, since the other station has Skiles locked up, this was the next best thing.


Does Skiles still go on MJH ?


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The KW interview was another example of why I like North when he talks sports. Did you notice that neither Tranny or Sox fan Fred were involved in the interview.


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The KW interview was another example of why I like North when he talks sports. Did you notice that neither Tranny or Sox fan Fred were involved in the interview.


Yeah, and I noticed that North took calls instead of letting Fred ask a question.

I listened to North's show for about 1 hour today - thought it was a lively show, but am amazed of how often Annie just talks...and then back to where I always end up - why is she there.


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Probably would have better served to get Stacey King as the call in analyst. I think he's really learning on the fly and is starting to bring items to the table. Well, since the other station has Skiles locked up, this was the next best thing.


Does Skiles still go on MJH ?



Yes, he is still on there. I want to say 5 PM Thursdays typically.


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I didn't know until today that Cubs fans aren't allowed to question White Sox transactions. So that was good to know.


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I didn't know until today that Cubs fans aren't allowed to question White Sox transactions. So that was good to know.


ozzie and kw, however, are allowed to whine about how the cubs spend their money.


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2 Voices of reason! (The above 2 posters)

Bernstein danced around this a bit last week when he said the Sox are acting like they know more than everyone, like a great organization does.

I have been having this 'Great Organization' arguement with a Sox fan for about 2 years now ever since the 2005 season.

Not that winning a world series is easy but there is an elemen of luck that exists, winning mutliple world series, playoff birthsm etc under an organizational philospohy is a sign of a great organization (i.e STL, MINN, NY, BOST,OAK and even FLA) but the Sox have not even touched Greatness under Jerry R regime.

Ownerhsip of 25 years (Longest in baseball) and they played in the weakest division for all those years, should have had dominating success. Yes, thi8s year the AL central was the best in baseball, but that was the first time that could be said in 25 years and a majority of those times it has been the worst, as the Sox have competed against only small market teams that never spent. Cleveland had a good run, but they didn't resign anyone, KC (AL= to Pitt), Detroit (Pathetic until 2006), Minn (Owned the Sox on 1/2 the slaary).

But I digress

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Thing is that North does ask some touh questions, but then he follows up with a ass kissing that I have never heard before. But with that being said, North at least does step out, Terry, Dan, Mulligan and Hanley just wont ask the tough questions when it comes to the Soxs.

The Sox will go into next season with a smaller payroll then last year and they again dont have a 5th starter and before someone shoots back about the two "studs" they got from the Rangers, answer this, name one great pitcher that has come up through their minor league system in the last ten years.

Sorry, Sox fans are being shafted and the boys at the score are to scared to say it.


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2 Voices of reason! (The above 2 posters)

Bernstein danced around this a bit last week when he said the Sox are acting like they know more than everyone, like a great organization does.

I have been having this 'Great Organization' arguement with a Sox fan for about 2 years now ever since the 2005 season.

Not that winning a world series is easy but there is an elemen of luck that exists, winning mutliple world series, playoff birthsm etc under an organizational philospohy is a sign of a great organization (i.e STL, MINN, NY, BOST,OAK and even FLA) but the Sox have not even touched Greatness under Jerry R regime.

Ownerhsip of 25 years (Longest in baseball) and they played in the weakest division for all those years, should have had dominating success. Yes, thi8s year the AL central was the best in baseball, but that was the first time that could be said in 25 years and a majority of those times it has been the worst, as the Sox have competed against only small market teams that never spent. Cleveland had a good run, but they didn't resign anyone, KC (AL= to Pitt), Detroit (Pathetic until 2006), Minn (Owned the Sox on 1/2 the slaary).

But I digress


So your harshest criticism of the Sox is that they aren't a "great" organization? Okay . . .

How many 90-loss seasons have the Sox had in the last 25 years? One other thing they have the longest current streak of any team, 15 years I believe, without a to 10 draft prick. They may not be a "great" organiztion, but they are consistently competitive. Oh, and they do have that 2005 World Series trophy.


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The Sox will go into next season with a smaller payroll then last year and they again dont have a 5th starter and before someone shoots back about the two "studs" they got from the Rangers, answer this, name one great pitcher that has come up through their minor league system in the last ten years.

Sorry, Sox fans are being shafted and the boys at the score are to scared to say it.


This is funny because Cubs fans are the ones who have gotten shafted - they have to endure Marquis every 5th day - for three years!!


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The Sox will go into next season with a smaller payroll then last year and they again dont have a 5th starter and before someone shoots back about the two "studs" they got from the Rangers, answer this, name one great pitcher that has come up through their minor league system in the last ten years.

Sorry, Sox fans are being shafted and the boys at the score are to scared to say it.


This is funny because Cubs fans are the ones who have gotten shafted - they have to endure Marquis every 5th day - for three years!!


I'm not sure I'd call Mark Buerhle great, but he's been an all-star 2 or 3 times, and Garland, who was traded from the Cubs to the White Sox 1 year after being drafted, did pitch in the White Sox minor league system though he's not technically a homegrown product. Bobby Jenks is in the same boat as Garland, pitching a bit in the Sox system, but coming from the Angels on waivers

They really haven't traded any prospects I can think of who've turned out to hurt them as of now, but they were good enough to acquire Freddy Garica and Javier Vazquez by trade as well.

According to Kenny Williams on North's show this morning, Denks and Gio Gonzalez are the two best lefty pitching prospects in the majors, and throw guys like Haeger, Phillips, Broadway, Massot, Cisco, and Gavin Floyd in there, and the Sox should have a chance to have a good pitching staff for the next 5 years or so.


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So now guys like Aardsma, Sisco and a bucn of rookies who are great because KW says they are, will be saving the Sox for years to come? I am sure Coop can work the magic he worked last year when Buerhle, Contreas and Vasquz were failing?

All I am saying is that KW and JR seem to be making alot of excuses why they wont spend money. I am not anti Sox, I just find it funny how obvious bullshit is being ignored. If I am wrong, I will admit it.


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I hate being lumped in with a guy like you, because it is SO true when a Cub fan mentions anything about the Sox you need to counter it with a Cub statement. Even when the statement has nothing to do with the Cubs.

Just leave them alone and move on.

Agreement with those who think that KW has gone a little ga ga over himself after winning the world series, but he has won one and thus gets another chance, but this trading of Mccarthy after Garcia is still got me as the net effect drastically weakens this team for 2007?

I have hear several interviews with him and he talks about them being better down the road, but what happened to the guy who was interviewed the last 5 years that would like everyone to know that he will worry about next year...NEXT YEAR?

Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but are we skipping 2007 ?

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All I am saying is that KW and JR seem to be making alot of excuses why they wont spend money.

Well, here's one: when they spent $100 million in 2006, they finished in third place, so maybe there's no correlation between wins and payroll.


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So now guys like Aardsma, Sisco and a bucn of rookies who are great because KW says they are, will be saving the Sox for years to come? I am sure Coop can work the magic he worked last year when Buerhle, Contreas and Vasquz were failing?

All I am saying is that KW and JR seem to be making alot of excuses why they wont spend money. I am not anti Sox, I just find it funny how obvious bullshit is being ignored. If I am wrong, I will admit it.


I don't know what percentage of these guys are going to work out or not, but I think Williams is attempting to acquire as many top prospects (on the verge of being major league contributors) as possible, and if 2 or 3 of them pan out in the rotation, the White Sox will have them under their control for at least 6 seasons, and have payroll flexibilty to shore up weaker parts of the club through free agency/trades.

That's the plan at least, I think.


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All I am saying is that KW and JR seem to be making alot of excuses why they wont spend money.

Well, here's one: when they spent $100 million in 2006, they finished in third place, so maybe there's no correlation between wins and payroll.


Let's not forget the White Sox are going to spend around $100 million next season so they are not being cheap, but I do wonder why they aren't increasing the payroll after the attendence, and added revenue from the CBA. I have to admit though that I don't necessarily want Williams to overpay on the free agent market like some teams have done, but would hope that they we can use the money in-house on our own players, like Buerhle, Dye and Crede.


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they will lose all 3 to money

dye will play west coast in a huge final deal
crede will be offered a short term deal
buerhle will be offered a short term deal and use it as an excuse to get to St Louis

Winning a World Series makes players want to stay with that team, watching a GM dump players for rookies makes them want to leave


If the White Sox lose all 3 of those players, then I will be upset that they aren't spending as money as they could to remain at the top of the AL - that, of course, depends, on what their offer is, and what these players get on the open market.

Clearly, they aren't interested in the current free agent market, and that's understandable. However, if they aren't going to do that, then I would expect them to do everything reasonable to keep our own players.


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I hate being lumped in with a guy like you, because it is SO true when a Cub fan mentions anything about the Sox you need to counter it with a Cub statement. Even when the statement has nothing to do with the Cubs.


I was responding to a statement about Sox fans getting the shaft because they aren't spending money. The reason I cited a Cubs example was simply because they signed one of the worst contracts (Marquis) this offseason.


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Halfpint wrote:
they will lose all 3 to money

dye will play west coast in a huge final deal
crede will be offered a short term deal
buerhle will be offered a short term deal and use it as an excuse to get to St Louis

Winning a World Series makes players want to stay with that team, watching a GM dump players for rookies makes them want to leave


Who is to say you'd want those three (paricularly Buehrle and Dye) past the 2007 season?


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I didn't think this tidbit deserved a new thread.
I was listening to Kap and Waddle and before a break Kap says that North called in off the air to congratulate them for something. I am not sure what it was for, but North never misses an opportunity to get his name out there. You got to hand it to Mike, he has no shame.

I wonder how drunk he was?

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I didn't think this tidbit deserved a new thread.
I was listening to Kap and Waddle and before a break Kap says that North called in off the air to congratulate them for something. I am not sure what it was for, but North never misses an opportunity to get his name out there. You got to hand it to Mike, he has no shame.

I wonder how drunk he was?


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doomed, why is it that the quote fuction only works for you?

It doesn't make any sense. Bigfan, please fix the quotes when you can get around to it. It would definitely pretty the board up.

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I'm going to give North some credit - the last couple days, for the time I have listened, the show has been good.

Will it keep up ? Highly doubtful, especially once the Bears are done, and there's not a lot going on as the Score waits for spring training.


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