I'm saying that something that drastic (1-15, 15-1, or even to a certain extent 5-11) can skew the overall % numbers.

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Yes

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So what have we learned?


Coaches with southern Drawl = Success in the NFL

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By this logic, this guy's screwed

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If they can beat Philly, then I will apologize for underestimating Lovie's brilliance.

For now, I apologize for underestimating the power of Lovie's Lucky Rabbit's Foot.

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You know me like that.

I was mostly trying to stir shit. Jimmy Johnson is one of the best head coaches off all time at any level; the fact that he did it at two levels is all the more spectacular. HOWEVER: at some point "Lovie Smith is just really lucky" becomes untenable. His winning percentage matches up very well against a lot of coaches, and after six and a half seasons, we're no longer in small sample size territory.

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Fire Phil Emery

Double post.

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Fire Phil Emery

He's been lucky this season.

He's was 2 games under .500 as a coach since he'd taken the reins as an all-powerful coaching demigod in Chicago prior to this season.

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You know me like that.

Do any of you think the Bears will ever win a Superbowl with Lovie as the head coach?

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I dunno. I would have never thought the Giants would win a Super Bowl with Tom Coughlin, or the Saints with Sean Payton.

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Some say that the Super Bowl that the Bears played in under Lovie was lost because of Lovie.

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I don't think he's a liability that would prevent the Bears from to the Super Bowl.

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Team Cutler.

He's already been a liability that has kept them from winning the one he got them to.

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Debatable. Plus, they were in the Super Bowl which provides a certain amount of credit. I really don't want to sound like a Lovie apologist, but he's not nearly as bad as a good amount of fans seem to believe.

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Team Cutler.

I don't see him as bad, per se. I see him as stubborn and inflexible when presented with an idea that may take him out of his comfort zone (such as Rivera wanting to blitz the fuck out of the Colts in the Super Bowl). Instead, he stays married to his soft zone, and the running backs dice the crap out of the defense.

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Lovie Smith got to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman as starting quarterback.

This is just nonsense. The Bears blitzed more than any other team in the NFL in 2008 and 2009. Had they blitzed like crazy in the Super Bowl, they would have just been picked apart a different way.

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more like Rex Grossman got to a Super Bowl with Lovie Smith as his coach

Lovie almost torpedoed those chances with his stupidity against the Seahawks in the first round

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

He is responsible for some of the talent troubles they have - some of it isn't all that bad. This defense sould not have slipped the few years it did...last year okay because of Url.

His teams have been some of the least motivated and unprepared Bears teams I've ever watched. I'm glad they are winning, and I even think they have a shot at the Superbowl, but you guys are nuts.

double post

Congrats on the worst thought in this thread. Yikes.

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Team Cutler.

It's like people have forgotten Bears Football: 1992-2003

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Fire Phil Emery

I take it you did not watch the Wanny and Jauron years?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I did. They were bad but you knew that going in. That's my frustration with Lovie. I think those teams had less talent than the lovie coached ones too. A lot of lovie's coaching is luck and I don't like his philosophy. I watch a fundamentally poor football team with little consistency.



Congrats on being the biggest condescending smarmy prick in this thread. That's an accomplishment considering IB had a thought. Gold star for you today. Yikes.

Woah! Collateral damage!

Don't get mad at me because you said something stupid like Dave Wannstedt and Dick Jauron did a better job of preparing their teams and got called on it.

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You know I love you and value your thoughts. I think we disagree a lot because I have a more emotional response to sports and you...don't.

Probably why I have such a huge problem with Lovie. I dislike him more than Wanne or Jauron. This team has looked horrible this year and they are winning. They miss tackles, line is bad, misuse talent, can't adjust, etc. I have always felt that the super bowl was a little lucky/flukey because of Hester and takeaways. They got beat there partially because of coaching.

Wanne and Jauron were not capable of much and didn't have much so I didn't expect much. They were (or seemed) more consistent from year to year possibly game to game. That could be because I'm so far removed from that now...I'm sure at the time I was pissed.

Lovie is all over the place so I have a larger emotional response. If he were a student I'd expect straight As because of his salary and believe he is capable of the honor roll. However he comes home with grades ranging from A's to F's and there is a different reason everytime.

I don't like this team right now and winning isn't fixing it. You may not like or agree with my logic and it might not even be logic, but it's mine and I don't care what you say!!!!

Spaulding, can you explain to me what exactly about the Bears the last 2 weeks has been "horrible"?

The defense is playing lights out.

Special teams are playing great.

The offense still struggles, but they have done what it takes to win. They ran the ball well last night.

They just shut out a team who was favored on the road.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

2 games good but the 8 games before that not really good which is why it's frustrating. Why did it take 10 games? Is this permanent or will they take steps back? Are the other teams just that bad?

I still don't know what they have.

Would you agree that the defense and special teams has played well this year?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Yes. I expect the defense to be good and they've failed at that the last 3 years with one of those excused maybe. They also give up to many 3rd and longs and I don't always like the bending no breaking. I wait for that shoe to drop - I do realize that's on me.