Byron Scott calls lack of effort around NBA “scary”

conns7901 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:36 pm **Posts:** 19533

Are they really not trying every night or do they just suck?

Byron Scott calls lack of effort around NBA “scary”

Kurt Helin

Dec 28, 2010, 12:20 PM EST
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Byron Scott is old school — he played for Pat Riley and his legendary four-hour practices. He was a scrappy role player on a team filled with competitive people — Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar — who only knew one way to play. That was not a team where you gave 50 percent some nights.

So the inconsistent effort Scott is getting from his Cavs this season frustrates him. The fact he has to constantly remind them to give their all is doubly frustrating.

But that’s today’s NBA, where Scott told Waiting for Next Year the effort level is “scary.”

Quote:

“Around this league, it’s like that,” said Scott on Monday afternoon. “I’m sure I’m not the only coach that has to tell his guys that they have to go out and play hard every single night, ‘We have to compete tonight’ and things like that. I talk to other coaches and it’s almost universal, which is kind of weird. To me, that should be a part of your job, to compete and play hard every single night….”

“My job is to be a little more harsh, keep them a little more accountable as we can’t keep making the same mistakes.

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The coach can do part of that, but for it to be really effective that drive and effort has to demanded by other players. Kevin Garnett is a legendary practice demon. Kobe Bryant will let you know in no uncertain terms if you don’t bust it on his team. There are others, but there is a reason those two guys led their teams to the finals last season.

Scott can talk to his Cavs all he wants, until someone in the locker room steps up and demands effort and accountability they will be inconsistent. At best.

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57568

The past always looks golden when looking back on it.

I would bet Riley and other coaches had to tell those guys all the same things.

Darkside · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:35 pm

RFDC wrote:

The past always looks golden when looking back on it.

Gary Miller, Moises Alou, Jameson Curry wrote:

You bet it does!

Free Ajent · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:38 pm

Ok, so Cons is the kujoe outside of the wrasslin section!

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:38 pm

I agree with him. The difference between playoff and most regular season NBA games is remarkable.

I don't blame the players though. The regular season is a glorified exhibition season because any decent team will make the playoffs and then it all starts fresh outside of the home court advantage.

RFDC · **Joined:** Sun May 11, 2008 4:11 pm **Posts:** 57568

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I agree with him. The difference between playoff and most regular season NBA games is remarkable.

I don't blame the players though. The regular season is a glorified exhibition season because any decent team will make the playoffs and then it all starts fresh outside of the home court advantage.

I agree with this point as well, but I think the same thing was true back when Scott played as well. Players and teams take nights and stretches off. It happened then and it happens now.

Bagels · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:40 pm

sounds like whining from a coach who probably was expecting to get Lebron and is now stuck with a bunch of players who could care less

resign then and go work at McDonalds if you don't like the system

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:40 pm

RFDC wrote:

I would bet Riley and other coaches had to tell those guys all the same things.

I'm sure every coach in every sport in every era has had to do that. Does Byron Scott think Red Auerbach never had to give his team a pep-talk? C'mon now, that's idiocy. Scott just sounds like another "back in my day" old man.

Now of course there are a bunch of anti-NBA guys who'll see that and say, "See? I told you they're lazy!" I don't put any stock into that article. Of course Byron Scott's saying that. You know why? It's because his team is BAD. The better players/teams always look like they're trying harder.

And Brick, I agree...the NBA regular season is a marathon and not a sprint.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43743

I'm not sure what Scott is trying to do by making these comments. He coaches a team with not a single superstar player. He could bench anyone at anytime, and it probably wouldn't effect his team much. Why not sit some of these guys down if they are not giving effort. If you put them at the end of the bench, they will take a huge paycut when contract time roles around. That would definitely motivate someone to play harder.

spmack · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:42 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

RFDC wrote:

I would bet Riley and other coaches had to tell those guys all the same things.

I'm sure every coach in every sport in every era has had to do that. Does Byron Scott think Red Auerbach never had to give his team a pep-talk? C'mon now, that's idiocy.

Now of course there are a bunch of anti-NBA guys who'll see that and say, "See? I told you they're lazy!" I don't put any stock into that article. Of course Byron Scott's saying that. You know why? It's because his team is BAD. The better players/teams always look like they're trying harder.

And Brick, I agree...the NBA regular season is a marathon and not a sprint.

Kid, you know why Conns7901 posted that article, right?

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:43 pm

spmack wrote:

Kid, you know why Conns7901 posted that article, right?

The "Lazy Black Players" argument?

Krazy Ivan · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:45 pm

I thought I was doing the racist gimmick...

spmack · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:00 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

spmack wrote:

Kid, you know why Conns7901 posted that article, right?

The "Lazy Black Players" argument?

Of course, he'll act like I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I know.

Bagels · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:11 pm

wasn't it black coach who made the comments?

spmack · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:12 pm

Bagels wrote:

wasn't it black coach who made the comments?

That's not the point. You can do better Bagels.

Bagels · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:18 pm

spmack wrote:

Bagels wrote:

wasn't it black coach who made the comments?

That's not the point. You can do better Bagels.

you could too, trying to bring race into everything. you were the first person that brought it up. yeah i get the bit about conns. but it was an actual article, actual comments that were made. there were several comments on the actual article made by other posters before you decided to stop by and play your race 'bit'

Free Ajent · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:20 pm

camps is turning into beardown :roll:

Terry's Peeps · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:21 pm

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

So who's racist here?

Conns or Scott?

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43743

rogers park bryan wrote:

So who's racist here?

Conns or Scott?

Both.

Do you see any white players on the Cavs roster?

Free Ajent · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:24 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

So who's racist here?

Conns or Scott?

camps

Bagels · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:26 pm

Douchebag wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

So who's racist here?

Conns or Scott?

Both.

Do you see any white players on the Cavs roster?

Varajeo?

spmack · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:26 pm

RPB, tell your man to calm down. I was just pointing out Conns7901's bit.

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:28 pm

Bagels wrote:

you could too, trying to bring race into everything. you were the first person that brought it up. yeah i get the bit about conns. but it was an actual article, actual comments that were made. there were several comments on the actual article made by other posters before you decided to stop by and play your race 'bit'

I think Kamps' point is that Conns goes out of his way to post articles that depict minorities in a negative light.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43743

Bagels wrote:

Douchebag wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

So who's racist here?

Conns or Scott?

Both.

Do you see any white players on the Cavs roster?

Varajeo?

I would have to consult with the judges on this one.

spmack · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:31 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Bagels wrote:

you could too, trying to bring race into everything. you were the first person that brought it up. yeah i get the bit about conns. but it was an actual article, actual comments that were made. there were several comments on the actual article made by other posters before you decided to stop by and play your race 'bit'

I think Kamps' point is that Conns goes out of his way to post articles that depict minorities in a negative light.

Conns way of doing it is by posting articles so he can say "Hey it wasn't me that said it, it was the people in the article!!!"

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Bagels wrote:

you could too, trying to bring race into everything. you were the first person that brought it up. yeah i get the bit about conns. but it was an actual article, actual comments that were made. there were several comments on the actual article made by other posters before you decided to stop by and play your race 'bit'

I think Kamps' point is that Conns goes out of his way to post articles that depict minorities in a negative light.

I'd amend that to

Conns goes out of his way to post articles that wil spur ANY racial talk.

I dont think he targets minorites

Krazy Ivan · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:32 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Bagels wrote:

you could too, trying to bring race into everything. you were the first person that brought it up. yeah i get the bit about conns. but it was an actual article, actual comments that were made. there were several comments on the actual article made by other posters before you decided to stop by and play your race 'bit'

I think Kamps' point is that Conns goes out of his way to post articles that depict minorities in a negative light.

I'd amend that to

Conns goes out of his way to post articles that wil spur ANY racial talk.

I dont think he targets minorites

I don't see any of his articles targeting white people, so I think the minorities comment may be valid here...

conns7901 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:36 pm **Posts:** 19533

Krazy Ivan wrote:

I don't see any of his articles targeting white people, so I think the minorities comment may be valid here...

The FIU player banging drunken teenagers was about a white guy.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Krazy Ivan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Conns goes out of his way to post articles that wil spur ANY racial talk.

I dont think he targets minorites

I don't see any of his articles targeting white people, so I think the minorities comment may be valid here...

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=54244&p=982181#p982181

Looks like a rapist

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