There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Which topic would that be?

BTW, which baseball team DO you like, BM?

I smell a bit....

--Question of the Week: Why would BHO or his camp seek a confirmation or verification of a certified copy in lieu of the actual certified copy of the original? Especially in the personal instance, when he has a statutorily-defined right to all forms, original included? And, later on, when, under intense pressure to fully disclose, assuming again for some odd reason that B-HO did not have the info in his private collection, he still had the same defined, statutory right to easily obtain the genuine original info. . . why did he not procure it then?

What is the mainstream answer to that? - there has to be one, and I would love to see or hear it.

I smell a bit....

Come at me with facts...

So a legally acceptable and officially recognized document has been provided as proof, but that legally accepted and officially recognized document is not enough?

I smell a bit....

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Where there's smoke, guess what?. . .

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

This may not even be the issue - again, there very well could be some other factoid besides birth origin that is being withheld or occluded.

Personally, I think this may be the case, as you have to wonder why the Officials from the State of Hawaii would jump in the fire with him and risk perjuring themselves by creating the facsimile which claims his place of birth as Honolulu, etc.

Also, go back and read the suspiciously-and-carefully-worded/"lawyered-up" statements they released regarding their Officials' "attestation" that they viewed the original - don't be attesting to shit, just SHOW US the fucking original, HAWAII! They are being careful and tippy-toeing around shit, and I find it quite obvious.

Who knows? Maybe the original shows evidence of doctoring or something to that effect that may or may not be obvious to the casual observer, but that would be found easily via forensic analysis - I don't know, but shit, they don't want anyone to know. Maybe the copies attached to his school records are different from that which is filed in the official record?

We won't know for sure until we can lay eyes on the thing or thing(s) (other records) which they are keeping from us, and then pass the document on for expert inspection and true verification.

It seems as if we will never know for sure, but I am certainly now going to read the Swift Boat guy's book and see what all of those Private Investigators have compiled - you can betchya that.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

Donald Trump is a clown. People who doubt the citizenship of Obama are clowns. People who talk about those who disagree with them "being co-opted by 'Obama and his minions'" are clowns.

Thank you.

This is why I say we know less about this guy than anyone who has help this office.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

So you know all there is to know about George Washington and Teddy Roosevelt?

I think they got lost amidst a scheduled board re-configuration.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

I rarely troll.

Bump. Interesting, looking back at the responses in this thread.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

I rarely troll.

I stand by all of that still. That farce "certificate" that he released was as doctored-up as Joan Rivers' vagina!