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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:56 pm 
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Is this another guy who was not even projected to go in the top 100?

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:57 pm 
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You're not supposed to draft for need but it's not like they'd be reaching for one of those college pitchers. Hard to believe they pass on all those guys for a high school corner player.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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Mr. Reason wrote:
Is this another guy who was not even projected to go in the top 100?

No he's good. Just not sure he was the right choice with all the other options on the board.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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Javier Baez. Huh. He can really hit but he probably won't stay at SS.

Jungmann? Barnes? Gray?


Pitching wins championships. The Cubs are not interested in those things.

That Bundy kid looks like there's not much doing upstairs. He looks like a stud pitcher though.

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:59 pm 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
You're not supposed to draft for need but it's not like they'd be reaching for one of those college pitchers. Hard to believe they pass on all those guys for a high school corner player.

Typical. Maybe they can draft a fifth round football player, who they can pay like a first rounder and he'll suck.

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:01 pm 
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Pitching wins championships. The Cubs are not interested in those things.

It hasn't exactly been high priority over the last century.

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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That was a reach by the Padres. They have been linked to him for a while but all the 'experts' thought they'd get him at pick #25.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:10 pm 
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The Cubs won't pay him and he will star for The U and then get drafted by the Reds in 3 years and then shove it up the Cubs' asses for the next 10.

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:12 pm 
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Jungmann goes to the Brewers. You should be real happy with that pick, Hawger. Passing on him could haunt the Cubs for years to come.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:17 pm 
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and you should be angry about the Mets taking Brandon Nimmo. He's committed to Arkansas.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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Brewers get Jungmann and Bradley. Well that replenished the farm system in a hurry.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:29 pm 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
and you should be angry about the Mets taking Brandon Nimmo. He's committed to Arkansas.


Do you think teams could be picking guys that will not sign on purpose? Mets....Cubs......

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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:34 pm 
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No way. This draft is loaded and they're sure to get a less talented player next year. The Cubs pick isn't bad it's just interesting that they chose a high school position player over a college pitcher.

Nimmo is a bit of a risk because he's raw but he grades out off the charts.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:53 pm 
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Javier Baez
SS | Arlington Country Day School
Weight: 205 lbs.
Height: 6-1 Selected by: Cubs
Round: 1
PK(OVR): 9(9)



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Baez has crazy bat speed and big future power potential, but needs to find a position and show a little more energy on the field.

At the plate Baez unleashes on every pitch with a max-effort swing that, when he squares a ball up, produces loud, hard contact. He doesn't shorten up or ever use another approach beyond "swing with all you've got," and he can get too power-happy and start to swing uphill.

He still projects to hit for plus power, but the potential to hit for average will depend on his willingness to cut down his swing when needed.

On defense, he has a plus arm and quick transfers, meaning he should be able to play third base if (as is likely) he outgrows shortstop. He has also caught a little in the past, and I know scouts who like him there, but the general sentiment is that he's not interested in the position.

But the biggest issue for Baez is how he acts on the field. He's more than just flashy, he's very showy, and he doesn't always play like he's fully prepared or engaged. He has as much potential impact with the bat as any prep player in this draft, but the need for a new position and questions about his on-field demeanor are going to hold down his stock.



Sounds like a head case. WTF? He must come cheap??


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:59 pm 
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From Perfect Game, Baseball's Largest Scouting Service. Whatever that means:

24. TAMPA BAY RAYS
Javier Baez, 3b, Arlington Country Day HS, Jacksonville, Fla.
I keep seeing Baez being elevated significantly higher than this spot in some mock drafts, and I simply don’t think, with all due respect, that he is that type of player, in anything but a strict signability situation. For Tampa Bay, with its menagerie of 10 draft picks between slots 24 and 60, it’s a very good fit, however.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:01 pm 
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Peoria Matt wrote:
From Perfect Game, Baseball's Largest Scouting Service. Whatever that means:

24. TAMPA BAY RAYS
Javier Baez, 3b, Arlington Country Day HS, Jacksonville, Fla.
I keep seeing Baez being elevated significantly higher than this spot in some mock drafts, and I simply don’t think, with all due respect, that he is that type of player, in anything but a strict signability situation. For Tampa Bay, with its menagerie of 10 draft picks between slots 24 and 60, it’s a very good fit, however.


So he will come cheap. Typical Ricketts.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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This is my scouting report: :wink:

Javier Baez SS Arlington County Day HS: Baez is moving up draft charts because of his advanced bat and plus power potential. Baez has very good bat control and excellent pitch recognition. He has a good frame and generates consistent hard contact to all fields. Baez has smooth movements and soft hands but limited range. He has an average arm and is an average runner. Baez projects as a third baseman or possibly a second baseman and a top of the order hitter.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:11 pm 
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Matt Barnes at 19 sure sounds good reading these draft reports:

Churchill: The Red Sox getting Barnes here is a coup. He's a potential No. 1 or 2 starter and already possesses a 93-97 mph fastball and potentially plus curveball. He holds his velocity late into games and could get to the majors quickly, especially if he gets his feet wet out of the bullpen. Boston has more picks coming on later this evening, but this is a tremendous start as most didn't believe Barnes would get this far.

Can't say I trust Tim Wilkens much after that Hayden Simpson pick last year.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 pm 
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Not only does Tampa have a million picks they get a fucking steal with their first pick in Taylor Guerrieri. This draft is loaded but it's still hard to believe he fell this far.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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Joe Panek was a reach by the Giants. Especially with Levi Michael still on the board.

Lots of high school arms still available and why is Mikie Mahtook still out there??


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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and of course Michael goes to the Twins. Stupid Giants.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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First Tampa lucked out with Guerrieri and now they get Mahtook. Unbelievable.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:16 pm 
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Lightning round. Some real good players left for the Sox.

Jackie Bradley Jr
Brian Goodwin
Grayson Garvin
Andrew Chafin
Charlie Tilson
Nicky Delmonico
Daniel Norris
Henry Owens
Dillon Howard


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:23 pm 
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Goodwin and Owens gone. Rangers take Zack Cone. They can have him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:31 pm 
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Red Sox popped Jackie Bradley Jr. Damn it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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D'Bags pop Chafin. Double damn it.


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:40 pm 
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Grayson Garvin Grayson Garvin Grayson Garvin Grayson Garvin Grayson Garvin


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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Keenyn Walker. Toolsy outfielder. Shocking.

92nd ranked player by Baseball America. 6'3" 185 switch hitter. He stole 65 bases this year. :shock:

Looks like a make up pick for Jared Mitchell


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
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Dante Bichette Jr and Dwight Smith Jr get popped. Anyone else feel old??


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 Post subject: Re: 2011 draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:02 pm 
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Don Zimmer peed on the floor before going on stage. They told him he can't do that. He pulled a card out of his wallet, and said "Diplomatic Immunity."

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