So.... Nothing?

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

When the Bears traded for cutler I paid particular attention to an interview on ESPN radio from Mark Schlereth.

I smell a bit....

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Does he suck as a QB or does the entire offense (sans Forte, running behind a shitty line) suck around him?

This is not basketball. Cutler cannot "take over the game" and compensate for his shitty teammates. Yes. Cutler missed some open throws yesterday. Yes, he had some time to throw on some plays. BUT, in this offense, he's supposed to unload the ball as soon as he completes his drop, to a spot where his receiver is supposed to be. He can't do that because his receivers are either never open/in the wrong place. He has no confidence in their ability to run a route and be where they're supposed to be. Do any of you?

I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!

I smell a bit....

When the Bears traded for cutler I paid particular attention to an interview on ESPN radio from Mark Schlereth. Schlereth had the opportunity to watch cutler regularly when Cutler was playing for the Bronco's. I knew that Schlereth might be a bit biased in some of things he might say as Cutler had basically demanded he be dealt after he learned that the team had sent out a couple feelers concerning potential interest in him in a trade. I got the feeling schlereth didn't like Cutler much, but that didn't matter to me. But the thing that stood out in the interview was Schlereth's claim that Cutlers biggest obstacle as a QB had been poor decision making. He caused too many turnovers due to poor decisions he made throwing the football. That particular problem is amplified in games in which Cutler is under pressure from the defense, of course. Could he do better if he had an All-pro offensive line and top flight receivers...sure. but thats true for any QB. His decision making continues to be a problem.

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I dont know how you guys can keep defending Cutler, especially against Green Bay he's been fucking awful for 4 games now. At what point is it he just isnt very good against good teams. FF is correct, even when he has time to throw he sucks. He just got bailed out again from another horeshit thrown ball by the penaty or it would be 14 of 30 with 3 picks. I expected a lot more from " the best qb in Bears history".

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i think the jeff george comparisons are starting look look more and more apt.

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The Martz offense does not maximize his skill set. He is better than this offense makes him look. The fact that he can not audible is a joke. He should have that option. He is also quite good outside the pocket but Martz will not allow him to leave it.

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What really is Jay's talent? Holding the ball too long, taking a sack rather than rolling out or running, or throwing picks? Any QB can throw hard, so that really isn't a talent. I thought Cutler would be a savior, he's just part of the problem.

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Even beginning to judge what Cutler ultimately is on the Bears without anything resembling an NFL WR corps, is entirely moronic. And even if he has time, do you really think that somewhere in his mind he isn't wondering when the next wetting of the pants, comes?

I absolutely agree with the idea that skills wise, Cutler could conceivably be tops in the league. And I watched him almost get into the playoffs in Denver with a team that had three legit NFL WR's, and little else. No running game and a young O-line that was not playing well. But they played to his strengths.

There is really no other position in sport that relies on teammates so heavily. People want to hug Rodgers' nuts with the talent on that offense, and then crucify Cutler? They have a WR in Jones that would immediately be the #1 on the Bears based on pure talent, but he cannot find the field on Packers.

Remove head from anus...

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Agree with almost everything.

Jay Cutler might not ever be that good. Then again, he might be very good. The problem is that there is no way to tell. This is not just a mediocre or even bad offense, talent-wise. It is horrendous. If the Bears had any semblance of talent at any position other than QB or RB, it would be fair to judge. It is not. They are the least talented offense in the NFL at the WR and OL positions. Their only two WRs that even resemble "weapons" are a converted 3rd rd cornerback/athlete and a 5th rd WR. Oh, and they are running an offense that was successful one time 15 years ago with 5 future hall of famers.

Cutler makes occasional bad throws. He is also constantly looking down the field at WRs who are blanketed, can't get off jams, or aren't running the right routes. Assuming he does get a good 4 seconds to throw, and a receiver actually gets open, how the hell could he possibly be focusing on staying in the pocket, maintaining footwork, reading the defense correctly, and delivering the ball where it should be? Offense is about rhythm and timing. There is no QB in the NFL who would succeed in this offense. None, including Rodgers.... he would be better than Cutler, but he would not put up prolific numbers.

If they gave us a fair chance to judge, and Cutler sucked, I would be the first to admit it. I won't say it with the hand he's been dealt.

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Does he suck as a QB or does the entire offense (sans Forte, running behind a shitty line) suck around him?

This is not basketball. Cutler cannot "take over the game" and compensate for his shitty teammates. Yes. Cutler missed some open throws yesterday. Yes, he had some time to throw on some plays. BUT, in this offense, he's supposed to unload the ball as soon as he completes his drop, to a spot where his receiver is supposed to be. He can't do that because his receivers are either never open/in the wrong place. He has no confidence in their ability to run a route and be where they're supposed to be. Do any of you?

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Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

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When the Bears made the deal I was excited. I thought they had traded for a young guy that could be a top 5 QB in the league. At this point he's not better that Jim Miller or Erik Kramer. We can even debate if he would have been better than Orton. Especially considering who the Bears planned on drafting if they couldn't get him.

When the Bears made the deal I was excited. I thought they had traded for a young guy that could be a top 5 QB in the league. At this point he's not better that Jim Miller or Erik Kramer. We can even debate if he would have been better than Orton. Especially considering who the Bears planned on drafting if they couldn't get him.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

If it would be easier for some, you can just PM me your apologies rather than publicly post it.