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BF/JOR/Hawkeye Vince/even IB...I'm dropping the gauntlet ...lets see who makes the most $$$$$

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dull recent, first preference F&M Turf

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You can download free PP's from breederscup.com

I'll look them over and make a few picks for the weekend.


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Right off the bat I kind of like The Factor in the Dirt Mile and Giant Ryan in the Sprint. The Classic is a tough race.

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Sprint: If the track is fast, Euroears is going to run much better this time. He hated the muddy track at Belmont in the Vosburgh. The other California shipper Amazombie looks interesting with his ability to rate.

Dirt Mile: At a price, I like Jersey Town. 4th start of the year - last can be 'tossed' due to mud at Belmont but ran 3rd to Uncle Mo and Jackson Bend. Ran a close second to Jackson Bend race before at 7F.


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Friday, November 4, 2011 Get PPs »
Odds and comments by Brad Free. Horses listed in order of handicapper's preference.



Juvenile Sprint
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Purse: $500,000, 6 furlongs







HORSE / TRAINER

JOCKEY

LAST 3 BEYERS

COMMENT

ODDS





Secret Circle
B. Baffert

R. Bejarano

97, 97

Fast, unbeaten colt deserving favorite new addition to BC race menu

4-5





Seeker
S. Asmussen

J. Leparoux

67, 95, 76

Two ordinary efforts sandwich terrific wet-track score two starts back

6-1





Vexor
J. Kimmel

D. Cohen

80, 0, 80

G2 winner on "good" track, his career-high 80 Beyer is only average

6-1





Holdin Bullets
W. Ward

J. Sanchez

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Lone start was wire job in April, trainer-owner may have ace up sleeve

8-1





Blacky the Bull
J. Bonde

P. Valenzuela

83, 53, 74

Improving come-from-behinder in sprint likely to unfold swift pace

10-1





Trinniberg
B. Parboo

C. Velasquez

78, 78, 35

Stuck on 78s (Beyer), somehow managed to place in dubious G1 & G2

10-1





Sum of the Parts
T. Amoss

R. Maragh

78, 64, 71

Rounding back into form, the only entrant with a start (win) at CD

15-1





Shumoos
B. Meehan

G. Gomez

n/a, n/a, n/a

Euro shipper faces North American speed, winner turf and synthetic

20-1





Jake Mo
A. Milligan

M. Smith

73, 81, 81

Third-place comeback was first start nearly three months, can improve

20-1





Juvenile Fillies Turf
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Purse: $1,000,000, 1 mile







HORSE / TRAINER

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LAST 3 BEYERS

COMMENT

ODDS





Elusive Kate
J. Gosden

W. Buick

n/a, n/a, n/a

Top G1 European shipper at rock-bottom odds, won four straight

2-1





Somali Lemonade
M. Matz

A. Solis

90, 85

Came to hand rapidly, last-to-first winner both including G3, bad post

5-1





Sweet Cat
T. Pletcher

G. Gomez

86, 77, 58

Trainer good with these, finished nine lengths clear of third in last

5-1





Stopshoppingmaria
T. Pletcher

J. Castellano

86, 101, 78

Fastest dirt filly of year (101 Beyer), testing turf potential of sire

6-1





Stephanie's Kitten
W. Catalano

J. Velazquez

88, 79, 74

Improving every start and established on turf, won G1 synth last out

10-1





Pure Gossip
P. Serpe

R. Curatolo

87, 69, 66

Romped by more than six lengths on "soft" ground in BEL Grade 3

10-1





Dayatthespa
C. Brown

R. Dominguez

83, 79

Ran well both starts, freshened since runner-up G3 early September

12-1





Hard Not to Like
G. Cox

M. Smith

80, 63, 76

Misfired her only start against top company, won three other races

20-1





Dear Lavinia
J. Rouget

C. Lemaire

n/a, 94, 96

Won 3 of 5 in France while campaigning vs. lesser company

20-1





My Gi Gi
B. Koriner

R. Bejarano

79, 77, 52

Two good grass races at LaD gives her a longshot license

20-1





Customer Base
T. Proctor

J. Leparoux

75, 82

Two good wins on synthetic, by a stallion that gets turf runners

20-1





Up
A. O'Brien

R. Moore

n/a, n/a

Maiden winner on synthetic surface in Ireland, difficult to like

30-1





Ann of the Dance
M. Wolfson

C. Nakatani

71, 72, 63

Midwest synthetic specialist taking a shot switching to turf

30-1





Royal Bonnie
G. Weaver

C. Velasquez

73, 70

Distant runner-up in soft-turf G3, lightly raced filly with upside

30-1




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Bourbonstreetgirl
G. Contessa

J. Talamo

63, 67, 55

Won debut $75k maiden-claimer, then soundly beaten two stakes

30-1





Karlovy Vary
G. Arnold

G. Gomez

77, 72

Maiden winner last time out at KEE jumps into deep end

30-1





Filly & Mare Sprint
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Purse: $1,000,000, 7 furlongs







HORSE / TRAINER

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LAST 3 BEYERS

COMMENT

ODDS





Turbulent Descent
M. Puype

D. Flores

103, 97, 90

Deserving chalk sensational at one turn, this is her first against older

8-5





Switch
J. Sadler

J. Rosario

87, 92, 95

Seven-furlong beast in winter, raced wide and ran okay KEE tuneup

7-2





Pomeroys Pistol
A. Tarrant

J. Castellano

98, 95, 95

3-year-old filly continues to improve, crushed older last out BEL G2

4-1





Tanda
M. Mitchell

J. Talamo

94, 93, 92

Better-than-looked tuneup in fast-pace turf sprint, upset chance

8-1





Irish Gypsy
B. Baffert

M. Garcia

84, 80, 95

Likely not this caliber except at HOL, but working fast on SA dirt

12-1





Musical Romance
W. Kaplan

J. Leyva

89, 88, 76

All-surface specialist won G2 on synthetic vs. much easier company

15-1





Great Hot
A. Avila

C. Sutherland

82, 91, 91

Best still ahead for Brazilian import, synth winner actually prefers dirt

15-1





Golden Mystery
J. Guerrero

K. Carmouche

97, 93, 88

Earned lofty speed figures at PRX and MTH, now gets tested for class

20-1





Shotgun Gulch
C. Trout

G. Gomez

80, 86, 84

Come-from-clouds longshot unlikely to get hot-pace setup required

20-1





Her Smile
T. Pletcher

J. Velazquez

77, 84, 96

Has one big race in her career, her other starts say this race too tough

30-1





Tamarind Hall
J. Englehart

D. Cohen

89, 79, 98

Popped sky-high speed figs in June and July, rounding back to best?

30-1





Tar Heel Mom
S. Hough

A. Solis

80, 80, 101

Tough to endorse following back-to-back 80 Beyers in New York

30-1





Champagne d'Oro
E. Guillot

C. Nakatani

87, 81, 82

Her form was better last year at age 3, shortens route to sprint

30-1





Juvenile Fillies
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Purse: $2,000,000, 1 1/16 miles







HORSE / TRAINER

JOCKEY

LAST 3 BEYERS

COMMENT

ODDS





Grace Hall
A. Dutrow

R. Dominguez

78, 85, 72

Followed G1 sprint with two-turn crusher, good filly getting better

3-1





My Miss Aurelia
S. Asmussen

C. Nakatani

96, 91, 86

Unbeaten three fast races at one turn, can be gone if gets two turns

2-1





Candrea
B. Baffert

M. Garcia

85, 85, 75

Ran super pushing quick pace, looms major threat on or near front

5-1





Weemissfrankie
P. Eurton

R. Bejarano

86, 77, 77

Three-for-three in California, opinions vary regarding strength of wins

5-1





Miss Netta
K. McLaughlin

R. Maragh

79, 74, n/a

Gate issues cost her G1 shot, sired by winner of BC Juvenile and Derby

10-1





Say a Novena
E. Plesa

E. Trujillo

76, 78, 72

Good sprinter maxing out her pedigree trying to get two turns

15-1





Rocket Twentyone
W. Howard

E. Razo Jr.

74, 46

Indian Charlie filly could be better than her numbers, bomber?

15-1





Putthebabiesdown
K. McPeek

A. Garcia

85, 67, 68

Can't deny upward form cycle, top Kentucky trainer due for BC win

15-1





Questing
J. Gosden

W. Buick

n/a, n/a, n/a

Good Euro shipper enters dirt race that so far has stymied Euros

20-1





Homecoming Queen
A. O'Brien

R. Moore

n/a, n/a, n/a

Made 10 starts in Ireland, won twice, taking a shot while razor sharp

30-1





Northern Passion
M. Casse

L. Contreras

86, 82, 81

WO shipper's form flattered when filly she beat won G1 Alcibiades

30-1





Self Preservation
B. Cecil

J. Rosario

86, 101, 78

Tough spot based on tiring finish G1 at SA, may prefer turf/synthetic

30-1





Awesome Belle
S. Gold

L. Jurado

84, 58, 54

Took advantage of paceless race and romped, unlikely scenario again

15-1





Frolic's Revenge
M. Wolfson

J. Velazquez

78, 79, 78

Progress stalled as season and distances have lengthened

30-1





Filly & Mare Turf
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Purse: $2,000,000, 1 3/8 miles, turf







HORSE / TRAINER

JOCKEY

LAST 3 BEYERS

COMMENT

ODDS





Stacelita
C. Brown

R. Dominguez

100, 101, 98

Queen of North America female grass division has won 10 of 17

2-1





Nahrain
R. Varian

L. Dettori

n/a, n/a, n/a

Group 1 win in France made it 4-for-4, credentials for this race

7-2





Dubawi Heights
S. Callaghan

J. Rosario

97, 98, 93

Tactical speed always gets good trip, leader shallow California group

4-1





Announce
A. Fabre

M. Guyon

n/a, n/a, n/a

Seasoned G1-caliber mare shipping from France in good form

5-1





Misty For Me
A. O'Brien

R. Moore

n/a, n/a, n/a

Miler won half her starts overseas, possibly challenged by distance

8-1





Harmonious
J. Shirreffs

M. Garcia

94, 92, 95

Promised more than delivered in this winless season as 4-year-old

12-1





Aruna
G. Motion

J. Leparoux

95, 95, 94

This is right surface, wrong distance.

12-1





Shared Account
G. Motion

E. Prado

90, 82, 96

Returned $94 winning this race last year, similar odds this year

20-1





Distorted Legacy
A. Penna

R. Maragh

96, 83, 85

Second at a big price G1 at BEL, seems outclassed

30-1





Cambina
J. Bonde

G. Gomez

92, 93, 92

Occasionally uncorks an impressive turn of foot

30-1





Dynaslew
S. Benzel

C. Nakatani

93, 92, 76

Slow-pace front-runner/presser will keep grinding, better in 2010?

30-1





Perfect Shirl
R. Attfield

J. Velazquez

97, 86, 93

Has fallen short against easier competition than this

30-1





Ladies' Classic
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Purse: $2,000,000, 1 1/8 miles







HORSE / TRAINER

JOCKEY

LAST 3 BEYERS

COMMENT

ODDS





Plum Pretty
B. Baffert

R. Bejarano

108, 83, 96

Kentucky Oaks winner in spring, 108 Beyer in fall, holds pace advantage

8-5





Royal Delta
W. Mott

J. Lezcano

91, 97, 85

Nine furlongs at CD ideal for improving daughter of Empire Maker

5-2





It's Tricky
K. McLaughlin

R. Dominguez

95, 89, 97

Among trio of 3yos expected to dominate, already owns pair of G1's

4-1





Pachattack
G. Butler

R. Maragh

94, 95, 87

Hardly impossible, she runs on all surfaces and enters in top form

6-1





Miss Match
N. Drysdale

G. Gomez

93, 93, 95

Deep-closing bomber scored G1 upset in March for same connections

12-1





Ultra Blend
A. Sherman

D. Flores

94, 94, 95

Consistent and game Calbred always tries hard, might prefer shorter

12-1





Ask the Moon
M. Wolfson

J. Castellano

80, 99, 98

Her shining moments were summer at SAR, average elsewhere

20-1





Super Espresso
T. Pletcher

J. Velazquez

84, 87, 89

Not quite this caliber, taking a shot to pick up a piece

20-1





Satans Quick Chick
E. Reed

E. Prado

82, 86, 78

Would be an unpredictable shocker by deep-closing mare

30-1





Medaglia d'Amour
B. Cecil

P. Valenzuela

83, 88, 85

Ambitiously placed off dull recent, first preference F&M Turf

Those are the same picks I have.

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ok these are my (albiet weak) picks



The classic

Harve de Grace, Uncle Mo, Drosselmeyer

the mile

Get Stormy, courageous cat, goldikova

grey goose BC

creative cause (across the board)

emertates

sarafina, st nicholas abbey, sea moon


they will most likely not come in

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Missed Catalano's horse $16

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I made four $100 bets for tomorrow:

Juvenile Turf: Wrote
Sprint: Giant Ryan
Dirt Mile: The Factor
Classic: Flat Out

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Did you see Perfect Shirl from local greta filly/mare Lady Shirl won today lighting up the tote board at 58 bucks? Wow!


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
Did you see Perfect Shirl from local greta filly/mare Lady Shirl won today lighting up the tote board at 58 bucks? Wow!


No, but I loved tough ass Lady Shirl. Noel Hickey! That was a winning type horse. I remember one time at Arlington he put up a Japanese jockey, I think named something like Yutaka Take, and I bet $200 on her at about 4-1 and she got beat right at the wire.

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Thank you caleb's posse and shackleford. I had you in an exacta box. Paid $112.80.


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If you bet the 8 at CD today you would be great :D

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
If you bet the 8 at CD today you would be great :D


No doubt. 8s have been HOT today. That being said, I'm going with 1-3-5 in a tri and exacta box with $2 across the board on #10 in the 10th. I had to include gio ponti in my boxes.


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Om the bigget stage, Uncle Mo proved once and for all that he's not a mile and a quarter horse.


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Good stuff yesterday; the female jockey looses to the ex-boyfriend, the 18-year old trainer's son wins a $3M race, a throw-in horse in a $5,000 deal wins a $1.5M race, long-shots and big payouts everywhere. All that and the handle still down from last year :(

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...and I forgot... bobblehead Graham showing up!

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