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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:36 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Fisher wasn't creative and I don't remember him being particularly good at coaching through adversity.

In your opinion he wasnt created.

In mine he was. He won a lot of different ways with different cores of players.

Regardless, I want the Bears to have a great coach. They currently do not.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:41 am

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Jeff Fisher

regular season: 140-120 54% winning perc 3 Division Titles

post season: 5-6 45% winning perc 1 Superbowl appearance

Lovie Smith

regular season: 71-57 56% winning perc 3 Division Titles

post season: 3-3 50 % winning perc 1 Superbowl appearance

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:45 am

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I hear you but how many "great" coaches exist right now? Like 8? I just don't see your reasoning here, it sounds like making a change just for changes sake. Lovie is a more proven coach that almost everyone who is available. Fisher didn't really win a bunch of different ways. When he had an MVP QB, an All-Pro RB, and a top ranked defense he almost won a super bowl and had some good regular seasons. Aside from that he's been below average in terms of production.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:48 am

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RFDC wrote:

So about the same?

I believe Lovie has had more talent.

But like I said, Pete Carroll had a way better record than Bellicheck.

We need to find the next Bellicheck.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:50 am

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FavreFan wrote:

Its not just that.

I think its a bad thing to have a Defensive minded head coach in a time where defense has never mattered less.

I dont think the Bears are winning a Super Bowl with Lovie, so in my mind there is no reason to keep him around.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:55 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Several weeks ago when the Bears were 7-3 and rolling you didn't at least consider them a contender?

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:15 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Several weeks ago when the Bears were 7-3 and rolling you didn't at least consider them a contender?

Not to win the Super Bowl.

I expected them to lose to the Saints or Packers.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:00 am

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Realistically, filling 4 of these holes in the draft and free agency would be the best case scenario probably.

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312player

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:28 am

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4 holes filled? i think it is doable

hopefully.. 1st round mike floyd w.r.
2nd round coby fleener t.e.
3rd round trumaine johnson c.b.
4th round lamichael james rb

edit..dwayne bowe via free agency..take a flyer on kirk cousins in the 6th or 7th round

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:38 am

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312player wrote:

4 holes filled? i think it is doable

hopefully.. 1st round mike floyd w.r.
2nd round coby fleener t.e.
3rd round trumaine johnson c.b.
4th round lamichael james rb

Well I dont consider RB a hole. This team needs a LT. A REAL LT.

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312player

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:44 am

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trade hester for a 4th round pick..draft mike ryan from uconn

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:51 am

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312player wrote:

trade hester for a 4th round pick..draft mike ryan from uconn

Nice pick for a sleeper but he had a knee injury.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:52 am

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Which means he was probably on Angelo's board.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:52 am

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No one is giving the Bears a 4th round pick for Hester.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:48 am

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RFDC wrote:

No one is giving the Bears a 4th round pick for Hester.

Check out the Hester value thread.

Im talking people out of expecting a 2nd rounder

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: NEEDS: LT, WR1, WR2, LE, CB, FS, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, DT, ST

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:10 pm

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Bears have two 3rd rounders via the Olsen trade

4 picks in the top 83 selections is a nice start for a new GM

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