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He does this year. Had a nice stretch where he played at an all star level last year though. Not sure what happened, but I figure it could be in his head.

Still say you wouldn't trade him for Howard? :lol:

He realized he already got his paper, and he doesn't need to play well anymore.

Fuck he's always had his paper


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hmm i also had quade as a bum..roy williams as a bum..and caleb hanie..still feel good?

Way to go out on a limb. Next thing you are gonna tell me that you never thought Keith Bogans was a good fit at 2 guard for the Bulls.

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So how long before Cof shows up here?

not that long. Joakim is what he is. He should be starting over Asik unless Asik suddenly develops better conditioning and stops fouling as much. I'm glad to see people coming around to my point of view.

I'm not sure anyone is coming around on either side. It sounds like the people that liked or disliked him on draft day still feel that way.

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So how long before Cof shows up here?

not that long. Joakim is what he is. He should be starting over Asik unless Asik suddenly develops better conditioning and stops fouling as much. I'm glad to see people coming around to my point of view.

I'm not sure anyone is coming around on either side. It sounds like the people that liked or disliked him on draft day still feel that way.

I hated the pick on draft day but he has won me over by not sucking while being a Bull.

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in have been saying to trade noah when he is healthy and teams see a higher ceiling on him for over a year.

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not mad no..i did not like the pick at the time..he hustles and works hard and is hard not to like...he is decent, i thought he would suck..but he is not a good fit for this team..a big man that can finish around the rim with d rose would be much better,

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younger yes..so probably more valuable going forward long term..but i would rather have chandler for the next 2 seasons

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younger yes..so probably more valuable going forward long term..but i would rather have chandler for the next 2 seasons


you would rather have a guy who barely gives a shit on any given night? have fun losing

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younger yes..so probably more valuable going forward long term..but i would rather have chandler for the next 2 seasons


you would rather have a guy who barely gives a shit on any given night? have fun losing





guess you missed the mavs run last year eh :wink:

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I'm not sure anyone is coming around on either side. It sounds like the people that liked or disliked him on draft day still feel that way.


i thought he would either suck or be a huge locker room cancer. i was totally wrong on both accounts. i thought he was a clown coming in, and he was. but now he has respect around the league and is huge trade bait... im not sure how anyone can say he sucks

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guess you missed the mavs run last year eh :wink:



yeah tyson was definitely the star on that team. so valuable that the mavs gave him a huge extension

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I'm not sure anyone is coming around on either side. It sounds like the people that liked or disliked him on draft day still feel that way.


i thought he would either suck or be a huge locker room cancer. i was totally wrong on both accounts. i thought he was a clown coming in, and he was. but now he has respect around the league and is huge trade bait... im not sure how anyone can say he sucks

I agree. Anyone saying he sucks is basketball stupid. He's one of those players that is much better than his stats convey, and his stats over the past two years are pretty impressive.

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I'm not sure anyone is coming around on either side. It sounds like the people that liked or disliked him on draft day still feel that way.


i thought he would either suck or be a huge locker room cancer. i was totally wrong on both accounts. i thought he was a clown coming in, and he was. but now he has respect around the league and is huge trade bait... im not sure how anyone can say he sucks

I agree. Anyone saying he sucks is basketball stupid. He's one of those players that is much better than his stats convey, and his stats over the past two years are pretty impressive.

what killed me was that they drafted him #9. If you're going to go that high, go higher and draft Horford.

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 Post subject: Re: Does Noah Suck?
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The problem with him is that he is sometimes streaky and he doesn't have much of an offensive game. To be effective he needs to average 10 points a game and 10 to 12 rebounds a night. His defense needs to be better too because he doesn't play at the end of games when they need defense.

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what killed me was that they drafted him #9. If you're going to go that high, go higher and draft Horford.


Yes because moving from pick 9 to pick 3 to get Horford would have been really easy and I am sure they had the opportunity to do that and just said screw it.

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The problem with him is that he is sometimes streaky and he doesn't have much of an offensive game. To be effective he needs to average 10 points a game and 10 to 12 rebounds a night. His defense needs to be better too because he doesn't play at the end of games when they need defense.





exactly...noah should average a double double with the minutes he gets and the playing with the first team..is asik got those minutes with the starters he would average a double/double.

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The problem with him is that he is sometimes streaky and he doesn't have much of an offensive game. To be effective he needs to average 10 points a game and 10 to 12 rebounds a night. His defense needs to be better too because he doesn't play at the end of games when they need defense.





exactly...noah should average a double double with the minutes he gets and the playing with the first team..is asik got those minutes with the starters he would average a double/double.

Noah's averaged a double double the last two seasons. He's only playing 27 mpg this year. He's played much better than Asik this year.

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The problem with him is that he is sometimes streaky and he doesn't have much of an offensive game. To be effective he needs to average 10 points a game and 10 to 12 rebounds a night. His defense needs to be better too because he doesn't play at the end of games when they need defense.





exactly...noah should average a double double with the minutes he gets and the playing with the first team..is asik got those minutes with the starters he would average a double/double.


Noah is the worst player in the NBA. I can't believe the Bulls allow him to play. I feel sorry for his family.

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Im guessing people still think he sucks?

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At the point when salaries become a factor. Which is always. He is getting paid $12M this year for 7PPG and 7RPG. That is 'bad contract' territory.

This is why it made no sense to judge his year after 9 games, considering his production the past two seasons.

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Noah begins every season out of shape. He'll bounce back in a couple weeks.


Looks like you were right.

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Noah begins every season out of shape. He'll bounce back in a couple weeks.


Looks like you were right.

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Noah's incident with the referee almost cost the Bulls the Toronto game.

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What's kinda weird is, if he puts in a couple more good seasons, he'll be the 2nd best center in Bulls history (after Artis Gilmore).


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i don't think anyone thinks noah sucks..but he is not that great...he gets great looks at the basket on this team and struggles to score ten a game....he is what he is...9 ppg/10 boards...good passer ..runs the floor well..lots of energy and tries gard on defense..but gets pushed around by the better centers in the league when it counts.taj gibson is much better..taj is a starter on any other team in the league and 18-9 guy night in and out when he gets that starters role.

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i don't think anyone thinks noah sucks..but he is not that great...he gets great looks at the basket on this team and struggles to score ten a game....he is what he is...9 ppg/10 boards...good passer ..runs the floor well..lots of energy and tries gard on defense..but gets pushed around by the better centers in the league when it counts.taj gibson is much better..taj is a starter on any other team in the league and 18-9 guy night in and out when he gets that starters role.

Hes closer to 11/11 than 9/10. He does more than "try hard" on defense. He's one of the best defensive centers in the league and Dwight is really the only one that pushes him around. And even then, Noah is one of the best defenders of Dwight in the league. Many people have argued in this thread that he is not a good player. He is. He's a really good player that was an excellent draft pick at 9, considering that spot came down to Spencer Hawes or Noah. People seem to forget that.

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