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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:31 pm

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I say no. What say you CSFMB?

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:31 pm

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Yes.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:32 pm

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Yes.

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:33 pm

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:33 pm

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At this point, Orton is better than Tebow.

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:36 pm

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Orton is much better than Tebow. Tebow is the worst QB in the NFL.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:25 pm

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Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills.

I don't feel they are a true comparison.

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:37 pm

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills.

I don't feel they are a true comparison.

They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick?

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:38 pm

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Phil McCracken wrote:

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills.

I don't feel they are a true comparison.

They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick?

Tebow

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:39 pm

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:43 pm

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Tebow is by far the better Christian

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:57 pm

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Phil McCracken wrote:

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills.

I don't feel they are a true comparison.

They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick?

Tim Tebow.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:58 pm

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Tebow will never be a better quarterback than Orton.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:59 pm

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Phil McCracken wrote:

They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick?

Faulty questioning alert. You would be better served to pick Tebow because he is younger.

However, if you have a "win now" team and you need a QB, you would be wrong to pick Tebow over Orton.

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:01 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Phil McCracken wrote:

They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick?

Faulty questioning alert. You would be better served to pick Tebow because he is younger.

However, if you have a "win now" team and you need a QB, you would be wrong to pick Tebow over Orton.

Oh fine. Since this is a magical hypothetical that I am in control of lets make them both 24 years old and coming off their first season where they led a team to an unlikely playoff berth.

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:07 pm

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I would pick Orton no matter what. Tebow will never be better.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:12 pm

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Phil McCracken wrote:

Oh fine. Since this is a magical hypothetical that I am in control of lets make them both 24 years old and coming off their first season where they led a team to an unlikely playoff berth.

In this case, I would take Orton.

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Phil McCracken wrote:

Oh fine. Since this is a magical hypothetical that I am in control of lets make them both 24 years old and coming off their first season where they led a team to an unlikely playoff berth.

In this case, I would take Orton.

What you saw from Orton in those ensuing years leading to him eventually getting supplanted by Timothy Richard Tebow cemented this for you huh :lol:

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:16 pm

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Can't tell if serious.

I'm just stating that in the case of your second example, I would take Orton as he (correctly) gives me the highest chance at winning football games.

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:18 pm

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Can't tell if serious.

I'm just stating that in the case of your second example, I would take Orton as he (correctly) gives me the highest chance at winning football games.

I disagree. But I can't fault your reasoning. What is lost in all of this is I actually think Orton is a fairly servicable NFL QB.

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Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:26 pm

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You just think Tebow's a better quarterback. I don't totally disagree, only because they are completely different players. I'm not trying to be obtuse or difficult, but Tebow is completely different.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:31 pm

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Tebow will be awful next year. People figured him out at the end of last season and if the Steelers were healthy that game would not have been close. The whole thing is a novelty. It works for Cam Newton because he can throw the ball as well.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:39 pm

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I guess you didn't see him on Sunday, he was bad!!!

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I guess you didn't see him on Sunday, he was bad!!!

You would guess correctly. I have never watched the probowl in my life.

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Phil McCracken

Post subject: Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I think Cam Newton is a better talent too but I expect the Number 1 overall pick to be better than the number 15 overall pick.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:49 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

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I guess you didn't see him on Sunday, he was bad!!!

You would guess correctly. I have never watched the probowl in my life.

I figured not, only losers like me watch it. Plus I took the over.

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:50 pm

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I saw a little bit of it. What was the o/u, like 90? :lol:

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

I saw a little bit of it. What was the o/u, like 90? :lol:

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills.

I don't feel they are a true comparison.

The Broncos did not go to the playoffs with Orton as a starter. The Broncos did go to the playoffs with Tebow as a starter. It all depends on how you define "better". Tebow has won more playoff games than Orton and just as many as Cutler.

The thing about Tebow is that he was not the starter coming into the season and they did not have an off season with mini camps and things to get him ready to go.

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