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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:42 pm 
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He wasn't exactly an unathletic guy to begin with though. I know a lot of guys here who rip on him paint him as some uncoordinated, nerdy brainiac, but the guy was active and played sports before the knee injury.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:42 pm 
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Brick, I think spanky is looking for you in the white sox security thread.

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That's not that hard to believe. I was doing that when I was 15, and I was only about 5'6" at that point.

Nope

Are you saying I'm lying?

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:44 pm 
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It's like the story about him saying he could hit a 95 MPH fastball. Just saying that sounds insane.

But when you tell the whole story, where Dan said that with an unlimited number of swings in a batting cage it's just a matter of timing, the story isn't nearly as ludicrous.

But its not.

He could probably foul tip a couple. He is not turning around 95 mph pitch. Just isnt.


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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That's not that hard to believe. I was doing that when I was 15, and I was only about 5'6" at that point.

Nope

Are you saying I'm lying?

See my edit/addition


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I'll tune in later to see what's going on.


C'mon, you'll miss him mindlessly parroting all the famous Bernstein phrases, like "Informed Consent". :lol:

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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It's like the story about him saying he could hit a 95 MPH fastball. Just saying that sounds insane.

But when you tell the whole story, where Dan said that with an unlimited number of swings in a batting cage it's just a matter of timing, the story isn't nearly as ludicrous.

But its not.

He could probably foul tip a couple. He is not turning around 95 mph pitch. Just isnt.


Yes it is.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:46 pm 
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:lol: So Kid cannot remember what his own height was at that point in his life

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Lets just lay this out. If you are under 5"10 and you can dunk, you have crazy hops.

But we're talking tennis balls here. To dunk a tennis ball all you really need to be able to do is touch the rim basically. I couldn't dunk a basketball back then, but a tennis ball? Yeah.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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It's like the story about him saying he could hit a 95 MPH fastball. Just saying that sounds insane.

But when you tell the whole story, where Dan said that with an unlimited number of swings in a batting cage it's just a matter of timing, the story isn't nearly as ludicrous.

But its not.

He could probably foul tip a couple. He is not turning around 95 mph pitch. Just isnt.


Yes it is.

No, its not.

He's not hitting a 95mph fastball straight.

I cant believe this is even a conversation


And RFDC, I said either he'e misremembering his height or he had crazy hops

How many guys under 5"10 in the NBA dunk?


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"I am Bryan and I say it's not possible!"

Cool.

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Am I the only one that hopes Johnny Knox never plays football again? It's just not worth it.


No.


Shoulda been you, Haynesworth.

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So Bernstein is claiming to once have had a 40 inch vertical leap.

People question that and they're the crazy ones?

Cmon


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"I am Bryan and I say it's not possible!"

Cool.

I am Bryan and I have watched/followed baseball for years and seen major leaguers who couldnt turn around 95 mph fastballs so I find it very hard to believe that a normal ametuer could do something that a lot of pros have trouble with.

I assume Bernstein is talking the VERY FAST batting cages which are usually low 80's


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Spark, this would be a great debate for our show.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Lets just lay this out. If you are under 5"10 and you can dunk, you have crazy hops.

But we're talking tennis balls here. To dunk a tennis ball all you really need to be able to do is touch the rim basically. I couldn't dunk a basketball back then, but a tennis ball? Yeah.

So you were 5'6, with the arms of a 5'6 person, and you could touch the rim?

You have good hops then my man.


And lets just be clear here.

Bernstein can hit 95 mph heat and has a 40 inch vertical right? Thats what were going with?


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We are so lucky to have RPB here to set everyone straight on what OKC and Bernsie can and cannot do.

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If LoHo said these things people would be killing him for it. And rightfully so.

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We are so lucky to have RPB here to set everyone straight on what OKC and Bernsie can and cannot do.

Oh, now youre just being silly and not even reading what I wrote.


Do you think a person who is 5 feet 6 inches and can touch the rim is normal or a person with real good jumping ability?


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So you were 5'6, with the arms of a 5'6 person, and you could touch the rim?

You have good hops then my man.

Hops and a crazy wingspan. I'm only 6'0" but I'm pretty much all arms and legs.

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If LoHo said these things people would be killing him for it. And rightfully so.

Please take me off ignore. I'd like to restore our friendship if possible.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:59 pm 
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So he can dunk a tennis ball with weeks of training shoes
He can turn around 95 mph heat, just give him a few hacks


What will be his football claim?

Able to kick 90 yd field goals? Throw a football over a mountain?


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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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So you were 5'6, with the arms of a 5'6 person, and you could touch the rim?

You have good hops then my man.

Hops and a crazy wingspan. I'm only 6'0" but I'm pretty much all arms and legs.

If I told you a person who is 5"6 (with normal extremities) could touch the rim, wouldnt you be a little surprised?


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He can turn around 95 mph heat, just give him a few hacks


Not saying he'd hit a hard line drive. But to say he couldn't hit a straight dribbler is nuts.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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If LoHo said these things people would be killing him for it. And rightfully so.

Please take me off ignore. I'd like to restore our friendship if possible.


:oops: :oops: That's twice today.

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BUT HE HAD MAGIC SHOES!!!!!!

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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So you were 5'6, with the arms of a 5'6 person, and you could touch the rim?

You have good hops then my man.

Hops and a crazy wingspan. I'm only 6'0" but I'm pretty much all arms and legs.

If I told you a person who is 5"6 (with normal extremities) could touch the rim, wouldnt you be a little surprised?

Probably.

I'm probably just going off my own personal experience here. Berns' comment just didn't strike me the same way it did others. It's cool.

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He can turn around 95 mph heat, just give him a few hacks


Not saying he'd hit a hard line drive. But to say he couldn't hit a straight dribbler is nuts.

I believe he'd never get enough of the ball to hit it straight. I believe he would peak with a few foul tips.

Whatever. Who cares.

Hopefully he enters next years dunk contest


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Lets just lay this out. If you are under 5"10 and you can dunk, you have crazy hops.

But we're talking tennis balls here. To dunk a tennis ball all you really need to be able to do is touch the rim basically. I couldn't dunk a basketball back then, but a tennis ball? Yeah.

So you were 5'6, with the arms of a 5'6 person, and you could touch the rim?

You have good hops then my man.


And lets just be clear here.

Bernstein can hit 95 mph heat and has a 40 inch vertical right? Thats what were going with?

Are you sure about the 40 inch vertical. Maybe 30 or 31 inch. That wasn't that unusual in athletic guys in high school.
10 foot hoop = 120 inches
5'6" = 66"
wing span for 1 arm equals half body length = 33"
less head = -10" or so?
total body length = 89
120" - 89" = 31"

The other thing is the ability to jump and hold a tennis ball at the highest point of a jump is an athletic feat, but not a great one. The ability to time the foot movement, hand eye coordination, arm strength to hit a baseball is somewhat different. I think it can be done if you spend hours of time at it, and aren't concerned about the occasional high and tight pitch.


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I hate trying to put stuff together here. 20 posts late into the foray and here comes beni. :(


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