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Any person that talks about race as often as they do is most likely racist.

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Any person that talks about race as often as they do is most likely racist.

Are you shaking that?

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So....the PSU talk is over now?

And if so, how much of the show was taken up by it?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
JORR was right in his early days where he said Bernstein openly says blacks are better at sports and comes excruciatingly close to saying Whites are smarter.


Of course this has been taboo for a century or so. Saying one race is superior in one regard makes it likely that other races are better at other things.

Personally I won't go down that road and still think a white guy could theoretically be a good NFL running back. Evidence be damned.

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SomeGuy wrote:
So....the PSU talk is over now?

They're talking about Franco Harris again, so no.

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So....the PSU talk is over now?

They're talking about Franco Harris again, so no.

Franco Harris should zip it, and the same for the Paterno family.


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The difference is that it's baseball vs. football. Baseball players (white guys) are expected to be squeaky clean and when they do fucked up shit, it's reprehensible. However, those big dumb black football players are expected to be criminals anyway, so fuck it - just throw it out the window and concentrate on what the big dumb black guy does on the field.

B&B don't realize sometimes how unintentionally racist they are.

Very true assessment, Kid.


JORR was right in his early days where he said Bernstein openly says blacks are better at sports and comes excruciatingly close to saying Whites are smarter.

I told a story here a long time ago about one of my old Columbia radio teachers who interacted with (and hated) Bernstein. She said they were at some pickup game and she tried to strike up conversation with him by talking about how good one of the players were. Then according to her, Bernstein said, "Yeah...they're probably all gonna wind up in jail anyway."

I have absolutely no doubt that Bernstein really said that.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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The difference is that it's baseball vs. football. Baseball players (white guys) are expected to be squeaky clean and when they do fucked up shit, it's reprehensible. However, those big dumb black football players are expected to be criminals anyway, so fuck it - just throw it out the window and concentrate on what the big dumb black guy does on the field.

B&B don't realize sometimes how unintentionally racist they are.

Very true assessment, Kid.


JORR was right in his early days where he said Bernstein openly says blacks are better at sports and comes excruciatingly close to saying Whites are smarter.

I told a story here a long time ago about one of my old Columbia radio teachers who interacted with (and hated) Bernstein. She said they were at some pickup game and she tried to strike up conversation with him by talking about how good one of the players were. Then according to her, Bernstein said, "Yeah...they're probably all gonna wind up in jail anyway."

I have absolutely no doubt that Bernstein really said that.

Absolutely. I remember you telling that story a few years back and you said "It wouldnt surprise me if he said that"


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SHARK wrote:
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So....the PSU talk is over now?

They're talking about Franco Harris again, so no.

Franco Harris should zip it, and the same for the Paterno family.



Apples & oranges...

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I told a story here a long time ago about one of my old Columbia radio teachers who interacted with (and hated) Bernstein. She said they were at some pickup game and she tried to strike up conversation with him by talking about how good one of the players were. Then according to her, Bernstein said, "Yeah...they're probably all gonna wind up in jail anyway."

I have absolutely no doubt that Bernstein really said that.


I dunno, he spends all Bulls season preemptively attacking anyone who might, in theory, call NBA players "thugs." That doesn't jibe with flippant bigotry.

Dan hanging out at a pickup game is kinda creepy, btw.

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Absolutely. I remember you telling that story a few years back and you said "It wouldnt surprise me if he said that"


You've come around.

Yeah, back then I was more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But over time, he has kinda proven himself to be the sort of guy who'd say that. Plus, the woman who told the story is trustworthy.

She loved Terry by the way. Said he's one of the nicest and most misunderstood guys she's ever met. I can believe that as well.

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The Cubs' own Website reports that Ryan Dempster to the Braves is done...or is it?


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Dan hanging out at a pickup game is kinda creepy, btw.

It was back when he was covering the Bulls. It may have been a pre-draft camp or something like that. I forget exactly what the event was.

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Curious Hair wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I told a story here a long time ago about one of my old Columbia radio teachers who interacted with (and hated) Bernstein. She said they were at some pickup game and she tried to strike up conversation with him by talking about how good one of the players were. Then according to her, Bernstein said, "Yeah...they're probably all gonna wind up in jail anyway."

I have absolutely no doubt that Bernstein really said that.


I dunno, he spends all Bulls season preemptively attacking anyone who might, in theory, call NBA players "thugs." That doesn't jibe with flippant bigotry.

Dan hanging out at a pickup game is kinda creepy, btw.


I think he bristles at the NBA Thug talk because it fits the shows greater overall theme. Part of that theme is making blanket statements about "dumb" Chicago fans and fan in general in relation to race and sports.

Hence the Chicago Fan voice of "Hey, dat guy haz dem tatoos and weird hair! Der nuttin bunch a bunch of thugs who don't play da game right like Larry Bird!"


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Curious Hair wrote:
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Any person that talks about race as often as they do is most likely racist.

Are you shaking that?


Heck ya, blacks and whites are equally guilty of this.

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Hence the Chicago Fan voice of "Hey, dat guy haz dem tatoos and weird hair! Der nuttin bunch a bunch of thugs who don't play da game right like Larry Bird!"

On the flip side, how do you feel about fans who really think that? I think that's ignorant too. There are a couple of those guys on this very board.

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One positive is that Terry does appear to be tired of it at times. Interrupting Bernstein's impassioned readings of other peoples thoughts. Anyone who has to be around that man deserves a humanitarian award.

Pure mental masturbation.

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Here's the latest on the Ryan Dempster deal that might not be after all. CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman is now Tweeting that the Cubs & Braves had agreed on such a deal, but Ryan's Twitter remarks makes one wonder if he used his 10/5 veto rights that put the breaks on such a trade.


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Are you shaking that?

Good rule of thumb> Shake it more than two times you are playing with it.


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Good rule of thumb> Shake it more than two times you are playing with it.

You're so much more entertaining than Hank.

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Best I ever saw at shaking it? The late, great Michael J. Fox.

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Best I ever saw at shaking it? The late, great Michael J. Fox.



Nope, Ali. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

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Best I ever saw at shaking it? The late, great Michael J. Fox.

Wait a minute! Michael J. Fox isn't dead!


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Best I ever saw at shaking it? The late, great Michael J. Fox.



Nope, Ali. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

One and all...


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I dunno, he spends all Bulls season preemptively attacking anyone who might, in theory, call NBA players "thugs." That doesn't jibe with flippant bigotry.


Maybe that's why he does it. To assuage his feelings of guilt over his own bigotry.

Do you guys remember when he challenged Raymont Harris to a game of Scrabble? Harris must have mentioned in an interview how much he liked to play and Lord knows that Dan is the Master of the English Language so naturally there was no way Raymont (the dumb (black) jock from a *gasp* state school) could ever beat Bernstein (the white child of privilege and a very expensive private education) at a game like Scrabble.

IIRC Raymont won.

If anyone else talked about a similar encounter Dan would have no doubt called him a racist before he could even finish. "Ohhh, I see where this is going. I see the subtext!"

Goff said that first time he met Bernstein he (Goff) was wearing a nice leather jacket. Dan asked him if he was a drug dealer.


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Do you guys remember when he challenged Raymont Harris to a game of Scrabble? Harris must have mentioned in an interview how much he liked to play and Lord knows that Dan is the Master of the English Language so naturally there was no way Raymont (the dumb (black) jock from a *gasp* state school) could ever beat Bernstein (the white child of privilege and a very expensive private education) at a game like Scrabble.

IIRC Raymont won.

They joked about this last week. Goff brought it up and Bernstein made a CTE joke to the effect of, "Give it about 10 years and it'll be a different result." I admit, I laughed.

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Hence the Chicago Fan voice of "Hey, dat guy haz dem tatoos and weird hair! Der nuttin bunch a bunch of thugs who don't play da game right like Larry Bird!"

On the flip side, how do you feel about fans who really think that? I think that's ignorant too. There are a couple of those guys on this very board.


Hey! Are you tryin' to say dat Larry Bird wasn't plain' da game the right way?


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Ron Santo: he monetized EVERYTHING. Too bad he didn't run a ton of stuff, too.

Oh, and insulin wasn't synthesized until the mid-1970s, I think, so even while he could've averted a lot of damage by drinking less, he spent his playing career undermedicating himself to hide his illness. What was he doing, just timely candy bars?

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Hey! Are you tryin' to say dat Larry Bird wasn't plain' da game the right way?

The best part is that Bird didn't play da right way at all. I love the story about how he told some guy "I got you a Christmas present," shot a three over him, and said "merry fucking Christmas."

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I dunno, he spends all Bulls season preemptively attacking anyone who might, in theory, call NBA players "thugs." That doesn't jibe with flippant bigotry.


"Maybe that's why he does it. To assuage his feelings of guilt over his own bigotry."


And this is my theory on why he is so hot to trot on Penn State. There is some guilt or history in his family or something that makes this so important to him.

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