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Dunn averages an RBI for every hit he has. Meanwhile, he only scores less than half the times he's on base. So it would seem it would be more important for him to hit the ball than get on base. I'm not saying he needs to hit .300. But his ever falling BA should be a concern.


Well, obviously his home runs are tied to how many hits he gets. He's got to be tracking to have the lowest average ever for a guy with 100 RBI. I think Roy Sievers in '54 might be the lowest.






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Dunn averages an RBI for every hit he has. Meanwhile, he only scores less than half the times he's on base. So it would seem it would be more important for him to hit the ball than get on base. I'm not saying he needs to hit .300. But his ever falling BA should be a concern.


Well, obviously his home runs are tied to how many hits he gets. He's got to be tracking to have the lowest average ever for a guy with 100 RBI. I think Roy Sievers in '54 might be the lowest.






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86 RBI was his high water mark.

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Nice box score tonight for the biggin'. 3 for 5, 4 rbi, 3 runs scored. NOT BACK!

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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Nice box score tonight for the biggin'. 3 for 5, 4 rbi, 3 runs scored. NOT BACK!

He's been bad for a month. You really think one game changes that?

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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He was signed to be a big left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup. He leads the majors in home runs. It's not just one night.

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He was signed to be a big left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup. He leads the majors in home runs. It's not just one night.

He''s been bad for a month. You waited til tonight to chirp. You clearly see what I'm saying.


He should be batting 4 or 5 or 6. Not 3rd.

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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He was signed to be a big left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup. He leads the majors in home runs. It's not just one night.

He''s been bad for a month. You waited til tonight to chirp. You clearly see what I'm saying.


He should be batting 4 or 5 or 6. Not 3rd.


Considering that all evidence suggests the highest scoring lineup would be to order the batters from highest OPS to lowest, that probably wouldn't be a great idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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He was signed to be a big left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup. He leads the majors in home runs. It's not just one night.

He''s been bad for a month. You waited til tonight to chirp. You clearly see what I'm saying.


He should be batting 4 or 5 or 6. Not 3rd.


Considering that all evidence suggests the highest scoring lineup would be to order the batters from highest OPS to lowest, that probably wouldn't be a great idea.

Are you considering the evidence that a #3 hitter probably shouldn't strike out 250+ times?

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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Are you considering the evidence that a #3 hitter probably shouldn't strike out 250+ times?
Are you considering the evidience that the Sox #3 hitter leads the team in HR, RBI and walks, is 2nd in Runs (to the leadoff man), and is 3rd in both OPS and OBP? That is EXACTLY what you want out of your 3 hitter.

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He''s been bad for a month.

Over his last 30 games, he has a .195 avg (which is only 15 points below his overall avg), leads the team in HRs and walks, is 3rd in both RBI and runs. Pretty much right on par with his overall season :lol: :lol:
Since the AS break, he leads the Sox in HRs, RBI, runs, and is 2nd in walks and OPS.

As this thread goes on, you are making yourself look more and more foolish. Maybe you should just bow out now before Dunn wins the Comeback Player of the Year and/or the HR crown for the AL.

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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He was signed to be a big left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup. He leads the majors in home runs. It's not just one night.

He''s been bad for a month. You waited til tonight to chirp. You clearly see what I'm saying.


He should be batting 4 or 5 or 6. Not 3rd.


Give me a list of players who don't have three or four week slumps during the course of a 162 game schedule. You seem to cling to extremely small sample sizes to prove your point.

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 Post subject: Re: Dunn is back!
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For reference, spany, since the AS break Josh Hamilton is hitting a buck fifty four, with 1 HR, 6 RBI, and 16 strikeouts.

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Even though he had 2 more K's last night, Adam Dunn is giving the White Sox what they paid for and last night's 3-for-5 game with homer #30, 2 runs scored & 4 RBI in the Sox 11-4 win over the Twins.

He can be frustrating, but the homers he's hit are unbelieveable. My favorite homer was the one he crushed at Tropicana Field vs. the Rays that nearly took out the bottom of the scoreboard. He crushed that one big time.


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This is what Dunn is supposed to do. Hit HRs, walk, and strikeout. Expecting anything else is foolish. He is playing like last year never happened.

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spanky has been quiet in this thread since I posted those numbers...

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This is what Dunn is supposed to do. Hit HRs, walk, and strikeout. Expecting anything else is foolish. He is playing like last year never happened.

It's a far cry from a year ago. That's for sure.


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He was signed to be a big left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup. He leads the majors in home runs. It's not just one night.

He's been bad for a month. You waited til tonight to chirp.


I posted some info that backs up my side in this discussion, and you call that "chirping".

After Dunn has a poor week, you come in to remind everyone about all of his strikeouts. Is that "chirping" as well?

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I think it is clear that spany wants Adam Dunn to have a better batting average.

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I think it is clear that spany wants Adam Dunn to have a better batting average.

I don't know if that's going to happen. That on-base percentage Dunn has is more impressive than the batting average.


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I think it is clear that spany wants Adam Dunn to have a better batting average.

I don't know if that's going to happen. That on-base percentage Dunn has is more impressive than the batting average.



I was just helping spany get his point across SHARK. Doesn't mean I agree with it...

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spany's point is that Dunn isn't back. Its an elmhurstian point that was never valid.

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spany's point is that Dunn isn't back. Its an elmhurstian point that was never valid.



He wants to say that the only thing that matters to him is his batting average, but he just won't do it. I just want him to say that's what he's looking for. Seems pretty obvious...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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spany's point is that Dunn isn't back. Its an elmhurstian point that was never valid.



He wants to say that the only thing that matters to him is his batting average, but he just won't do it. I just want him to say that's what he's looking for. Seems pretty obvious...


And strikeouts are worse than other outs.

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And that he's wrong, and has been since the season started.

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This guy is so back he's starting to steal bases just for kicks.

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