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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:43 pm 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Shields would cost WAY more than Grienke, SHARKY. Greinke is a free agent after the season while Shields has two team friendly options for $9M in '13 and $12M in '14.

Hmmm...I didn't see it that way. Thanks, Keyser.


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Shields seems to run the gamut of being an underrated #1 guy, or an overrated #3. He's had some huge games in the postseason, but also looked awfully mediocre in stretches. I tend to think he is good, but not worth trading the farm for.

He might not be as pricey as Greinke, Apologist. I don't know that for sure...



I'd like to have either of those guys, but if Floyd is part of the deal, I think you're pretty much running in place concerning this season. Swapping Floyd and Shields is pretty much a matter of liking the guy you don't have better than the guy you do have. I think Shields is a bargain next year for his $9 million option.

I want Gavin Floyd out of here, regardless if it's Zach Greinke, James Shields or any other pitcher on the market now. Floyd...Too inconsistent. Ditto for Phil Humber.



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I'd take Greinke in a heartbeat over Floyd.

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I'm with JORR on this, trading Gavin right now would be silly. They don't need to be losing another SP, but trying solidify things.

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Plus...doesnt Floyd usually have a great stretch of like 8 starts once a season?

He could catch fire.


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I'm with JORR on this, trading Gavin right now would be silly. They don't need to be losing another SP, but trying solidify things.

Here's the problem. The White Sox don't have enough in the minors to pull off a Greinke deal. Floyd might have to be included just for the Brewers to tell GM Ken Williams not to hang up on himself. Seriously.


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Plus...doesnt Floyd usually have a great stretch of like 8 starts once a season?

He could catch fire.

June-August are when Gavin Floyd is supposed to be real good at baseball...


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I'd take Greinke in a heartbeat over Floyd.



All things being equal, yeah. They just aren't equal.

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Didn't I read many years ago that Zach Greinke turned down a chance to get dealt to the Yankees when he was a Royal many years ago? Too much pressure in the Bronx?


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The Red Sox are at least opening their ears to inquiries about Josh Beckett. Him, Brett Myers, Coop and AJ would be one hell of a crew together.

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The Red Sox are at least opening their ears to inquiries about Josh Beckett. Him, Brett Myers, Coop and AJ would be one hell of a crew together.

Josh Beckett...Hmmm. Well, the White Sox fleeced the Red Sox already.


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If they can package Floyd and Thornton to get Greinke, fucking do it.

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If they can package Floyd and Thornton to get Greinke, fucking do it.

It might...We just never know.


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SHARK wrote:
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If they can package Floyd and Thornton to get Greinke, fucking do it.

It might...We just never know.


Why would a team like Milwaukee want Thornton at this stage of his career? And who do the Sox replace him with? I know you guys don't like him. I don't like him. But realistically, are you going to find a better lefty to come out of the pen? And I've already explained why moving Floyd for Greinke is a bad idea. That's a deal that isn't going to help the Sox a whole lot- if at all.

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But realistically, are you going to find a better lefty to come out of the pen?
At this point, I'd take my chances with Santiago or a righty. Saw all I needed to see out of Thornton in Boston. 2 lefties, gets ahead of themboth, and gives up a hit. He's no good anymore.

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But realistically, are you going to find a better lefty to come out of the pen?
At this point, I'd take my chances with Santiago or a righty. Saw all I needed to see out of Thornton in Boston. 2 lefties, gets ahead of themboth, and gives up a hit. He's no good anymore.


You probably need more than one lefty coming out of the pen. And Santiago has had his struggles too. If you made a deal like that and somehow Danks was able to come back, I guess Quintana could go to the pen. I'm not sure that would be the best idea either though. Greinke for Floyd strikes me as a move you make for the postseason rather than to get to the postseason.

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SHARK wrote:
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The Red Sox are at least opening their ears to inquiries about Josh Beckett. Him, Brett Myers, Coop and AJ would be one hell of a crew together.

Josh Beckett...Hmmm. Well, the White Sox fleeced the Red Sox already.

No one was fleeced in the Youkalis trade SHARK


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But realistically, are you going to find a better lefty to come out of the pen?
At this point, I'd take my chances with Santiago or a righty. Saw all I needed to see out of Thornton in Boston. 2 lefties, gets ahead of themboth, and gives up a hit. He's no good anymore.


You probably need more than one lefty coming out of the pen. And Santiago has had his struggles too. If you made a deal like that and somehow Danks was able to come back, I guess Quintana could go to the pen. I'm not sure that would be the best idea either though. Greinke for Floyd strikes me as a move you make for the postseason rather than to get to the postseason.

No way you put Quintana in the pen, unless something drastic changes. Put fucking Danks in there before Quintana


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No way you put Quintana in the pen, unless something drastic changes. Put fucking Danks in there before Quintana


You and I both know that's never happening.

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No way you put Quintana in the pen, unless something drastic changes. Put fucking Danks in there before Quintana


You and I both know that's never happening.

Right but it would be a big mistake to put Quintana in the pen. He's having a ton of success as a starter and he's a soft tosser...not really good for late inning need a strikeout situations


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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No way you put Quintana in the pen, unless something drastic changes. Put fucking Danks in there before Quintana


You and I both know that's never happening.

Right but it would be a big mistake to put Quintana in the pen. He's having a ton of success as a starter and he's a soft tosser...not really good for late inning need a strikeout situations


I think he strikes enough guys out. Better than that though, he isn't loading the bases with walks like the guys they have coming out of the pen now. If you do make a trade for a starter and Danks does make it back, Quintana is the logical guy to go to the pen.

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John Danks isn't on a rehab assignment, and I don't think the White Sox on the whole have been all that honest regarding what's REALLY wrong. I'm not holding my breath that John pitches again this season for the Sox.


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John Danks isn't on a rehab assignment, and I don't think the White Sox on the whole have been all that honest regarding what's REALLY wrong. I'm not holding my breath that John pitches again this season for the Sox.


I'm not holding my breath waiting for his return either. And on second thought, maybe if they do get him back to where he can pitch, he's better off coming out of the pen for the rest of the year where they can better control his workload (especially after the September call-ups) and aren't counting on him every fifth day. Who knows what's going to happen? It should be interesting.

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Nice pickup for the Sox.


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so which taylor swift song is going to be our de-facto anthem for your 2012 world champion CHICAGO WHITE SOX?!?!

<--- never stopped believing. this one's for toby hall and the pink haired barber shop for manly men. and hanley ramirez too.

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Twitter reports (take them for what they are) that the White Sox are rumored to be in on discussions to acquire Brandon League from Seattle.


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I have no specifics, but I'm told #Whitesox are "a little busy" trying to get some stuff done before trade deadline. don't be surprised.


Does this count as 1 of the breaking stories?

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I have no specifics, but I'm told #Whitesox are "a little busy" trying to get some stuff done before trade deadline. don't be surprised.


Does this count as 1 of the breaking stories?


Hey, Terry isn't the only one with "a guy".

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Hmm....

"Larry's Peeps"....

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