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Wasnt McClellin's motor on high yesterday?


I believe it was. Unfortunately, however, the motor in question was evidently pulled out of a 1984 Toro lawnmower.

Emery off to great start!

I believe Irish boy called the pick "Malpractice"


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Wasnt McClellin's motor on high yesterday?


I believe it was. Unfortunately, however, the motor in question was evidently pulled out of a 1984 Toro lawnmower.

Emery off to great start!

I believe Irish boy called the pick "Malpractice"


They draft a totally undersized D-lineman that will get dominated by NFL O-Lines. He has the speed/size to be an LB in a 3-4 but Da Bears don't run that defense and likely never will until Dat' Lubbie Smit leaves.


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They draft a totally undersized D-lineman that will get dominated by NFL O-Lines. He has the speed/size to be an LB in a 3-4 but Da Bears don't run that defense and likely never will until Dat' Lubbie Smit leaves.


The McClellin pick seems even more curious given that Emery went with bigger players--like Jeffery and Hardin--in later rounds, suggesting he might be looking for physical prototypes rather than "high motor" overachievers. From this perspective, the conspiracy theory angle on McLellin vis a vis Emery and Lovie begins to look more plausible.

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Of course, my thoughts above discount the fact that Emery may indeed be a complete idiot, a conclusion thoroughly supported by the public persona he has thus far cultivated.

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Of course, my thoughts above discount the fact that Emery may indeed be a complete idiot, a conclusion thoroughly supported by the public persona he has thus far cultivated.


Yeah, Da Bearz may have traded a red haired clown for a green haired clown with glasses.


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He's definitely been having a shitty camp, that's for certain.

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He's definitely been having a shitty camp, that's for certain.


I haven't kept up with Training camp news, is he getting manhandled by the OT? Is he playing the End position?

Seems like a total 3-4 guy that would be better matched up against RB/FB pickups instead of battling OTs all day.


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He's definitely been having a shitty camp, that's for certain.


I haven't kept up with Training camp news, is he getting manhandled by the OT? Is he playing the End position?

Seems like a total 3-4 guy that would be better matched up against RB/FB pickups instead of battling OTs all day.


Flub "The Oracle" Blarkush was heard to remark, during the M&H show, that he was being manhandled by the O-Line and disappearing. According to him, Shae is undersized and whenever any O-lineman gets his hands on him he just ceases to be involved in the play.


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SomeGuy wrote:
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He's definitely been having a shitty camp, that's for certain.


I haven't kept up with Training camp news, is he getting manhandled by the OT? Is he playing the End position?

Seems like a total 3-4 guy that would be better matched up against RB/FB pickups instead of battling OTs all day.


Flub "The Oracle" Blarkush was heard to remark, during the M&H show, that he was being manhandled by the O-Line and disappearing. According to him, Shae is undersized and whenever any O-lineman gets his hands on him he just ceases to be involved in the play.


even worse, Hub said he doesn't have the speed to overcome his deficiencies in power

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He's definitely been having a shitty camp, that's for certain.


How can you, of all people, be making judgements this early in camp. I didn't like the pick much on draft day but I will give him a lot more time.

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Looking forward to seeing this guy play in some preseason games and get a gauge from there.
He may be destined for a LB spot eventually.

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How can you, of all people, be making judgements this early in camp.


Come on now, dolphio, piling on is fun! Especially when one is piling on seemingly disoriented and hapless Bears GMs!

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So we have a 7th rder (Webb) and an undrafted Free agent (James Brown) housing the last two first rounders (Carimi benched and McClellin getting beaten like Berntein beating a dead horse)


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He's definitely been having a shitty camp, that's for certain.


How can you, of all people, be making judgements this early in camp. I didn't like the pick much on draft day but I will give him a lot more time.

For sure. And I wouldn't trust Hub to tell me it's raining in a hurricane.

This is a weird season for me. Bears fans seem to be more excited than any year I can remember. I feel like this is all about to fall apart. We'll see.

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That's exactly how I feel.


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Based on what? I don't think they were as good as they looked before Jay got hurt last year, but it's pretty hard to argue that this team on paper isn't a improved, in a few spots significantly, from last year.

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That's exactly how I feel.

I swear I was just going to post that even though I know it has no effect on anything, Bears fans are waaaaaaay too confident about this team for them to perform


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If any one of the following players gets injured for a lengthy period....its season over

Jay Cutler (Campbell would be fine for a couple games but not in playoffs)
Brian Urlacher
Brandon Marshall
Julius Peppers
Lamborgini Lance
Charles Tillman


Maybe every team has 6 guys like that....I dont know


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If any one of the following players gets injured for a lengthy period....its season over

Jay Cutler (Campbell would be fine for a couple games but not in playoffs)
Brian Urlacher
Brandon Marshall
Julius Peppers
Lamborgini Lance
Charles Tillman


Maybe every team has 6 guys like that....I dont know


Only 2 of those guys are youngish. That makes me nervous.

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Based on what? I don't think they were as good as they looked before Jay got hurt last year, but it's pretty hard to argue that this team on paper isn't a improved, in a few spots significantly, from last year.
They are all a year older, and they were an old team last year too.

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Based on what? I don't think they were as good as they looked before Jay got hurt last year, but it's pretty hard to argue that this team on paper isn't a improved, in a few spots significantly, from last year.
They are all a year older, and they were an old team last year too.


Right, but there were hardly any signs of a drop in performance last year.

I guess, I would need to know what record 'falls apart' is? Obviously if the team gets hit by injuries it's all thrown out the window, but if they get 13-14+ games from the 6 Bryan mentioned, I can't see them being worse than last year.

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Based on what? I don't think they were as good as they looked before Jay got hurt last year, but it's pretty hard to argue that this team on paper isn't a improved, in a few spots significantly, from last year.
They are all a year older, and they were an old team last year too.


Right, but there were hardly any signs of a drop in performance last year.

I guess, I would need to know what record 'falls apart' is? Obviously if the team gets hit by injuries it's all thrown out the window, but if they get 13-14+ games from the 6 Bryan mentioned, I can't see them being worse than last year.

I could see them winning 7 games this year, followed by a long stretch of 4-8 win NFL hell.

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Right, but there were hardly any signs of a drop in performance last year.

I guess, I would need to know what record 'falls apart' is? Obviously if the team gets hit by injuries it's all thrown out the window, but if they get 13-14+ games from the 6 Bryan mentioned, I can't see them being worse than last year.
There was on defense. They gave up a lot of points in a lot of games. Now, some of those games were high scoring based on offense and special teams but I'm not convinced that the Bears offense and special teams is good enough to go for 30+ points in 66% of their games like they did before Cutler got hurt.

I think a lot of the Bears optimism here comes from the fact that for 10 games they looked good and then there was the built in excuse that Jay Cutler was injured.

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I think a lot of the Bears optimism here comes from the fact that for 10 games they looked good and then there was the built in excuse that Jay Cutler was injured.

I think it breaksdown like this

80%- Best Reciever Bears have ever had
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I could see them winning 7 games this year, followed by a long stretch of 4-8 win NFL hell.
Serious question, would you still see a "long" stretch of NFL hell if Lovie Smith is gone after this year, and why do you see NFL hell as a potential for more than 1 season?

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I could see them winning 7 games this year, followed by a long stretch of 4-8 win NFL hell.
Serious question, would you still see a "long" stretch of NFL hell if Lovie Smith is gone after this year, and why do you see NFL hell as a potential for more than 1 season?


No way am I attempting to speak for IB. But I have similar worries after this year. I do not think they will win 7 games this year. I think it will be at least a 10 win season. But after this year, the worries I have are on the defensive side of the ball. This defense is not going to last much longer and there do not appear to be any one to take the place of Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman as they fade away in the next few years.

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I have to admit to tiring of various Score "experts" telling me about how the Bears now have a LEGIT #1 RECEIVER that OPPOSING DEFENSES HAVE TO GAMEPLAN FOR because he DICTATES COVERAGES. Ok, great. He's also a headcase who drops a metric shit-ton of passes. The offense will almost certainly be better, but it's not like the arrival of Marshall is going to give the Bears a 5 ppg boost or catapult Cutler from the Flacco/Ryan group into the Brady/Rodgers/Brees group. Meanwhile they're most likely going to be contending with Detroit, plus two of Philadelphia/Dallas/New York, and either the Falcons or the Saints (and possibly a surprise team like the Panthers or Cardinals) for one of two wildcard spots. Given the circumstances I just see a lot more ways things could go wrong than right.

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I could see them winning 7 games this year, followed by a long stretch of 4-8 win NFL hell.
Serious question, would you still see a "long" stretch of NFL hell if Lovie Smith is gone after this year, and why do you see NFL hell as a potential for more than 1 season?

I think if I'm right about seven wins, or anything short of a playoff berth, Lovie is gone.

Second, the defense is soon going to have holes in too many places to cover them all up. The offensive line is a three year project if Carimi doesn't pan out, and two year project even if he does. And Phil Emery's scouting has resulted at his previous teams in one pro bowl season out of the 50-something picks his teams had in the second round and later.

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Right, but there were hardly any signs of a drop in performance last year.

I guess, I would need to know what record 'falls apart' is? Obviously if the team gets hit by injuries it's all thrown out the window, but if they get 13-14+ games from the 6 Bryan mentioned, I can't see them being worse than last year.
There was on defense. They gave up a lot of points in a lot of games. Now, some of those games were high scoring based on offense and special teams but I'm not convinced that the Bears offense and special teams is good enough to go for 30+ points in 66% of their games like they did before Cutler got hurt.

I think a lot of the Bears optimism here comes from the fact that for 10 games they looked good and then there was the built in excuse that Jay Cutler was injured.


I think the special teams has a chance to be the best unit Taub has coached. I really feel they are going to have a major impact on field position both when recieving and kicking. This has always been a relatively unnoticed factor in their success over the years: Bad Bear offenses had short fields and got in range for their dead on kicker. Overrated Bear defenses had teams pinned back inside their own 20 requiring unreasonably long drives to score.

However, this year, the offense should be able to convert those field goals into TD.

This Bear D is going to get absolutely gored by anyone with a big back who wants to run between the tackles...but how many teams do that these days. There is only one in the division.

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