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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:15 pm

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One way or the other.

SHARK can fill everyone in on the matchups.

Sox get swept. Cubs fans crow.

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cpguy

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:18 pm

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Won't happen. Although it would be hilarious if it did.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:20 pm

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I still want to back into you.

Call me.

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cpguy

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:21 pm

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AJ needs to double down on that PED creme - and fast!

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cpguy

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:41 pm

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Keeping Score wrote:

cpguy wrote:

Won't happen. Although it would be hilarious if it did.

Surprised you still come around after this monstrosity:

cpguy wrote:

It's either the Sox or the Mets.

Let's objectively analyze the Sox:

1. Shit ML roster
2. Shit farm system
3. Shit management team
4. Ownership has to be questioned as well for being to loyal

The only other organization I can think of as fucked as the Sox is the Mets due to the Madoff scandal ravashing their finances. The Dodgers would be up there but they are being sold, so that situation is being resolved.

Then you have "Kenny" running around trading his cost controlled closer for an A ball pitcher (albeit with good stats) when clearly he couldn't have gotten way more value.

Who is worse and why??

1. The ML team is doing well but has to prove it can close this season out successfully
2. The farm system remains poor even though a few guys have emerged for the ML roster (but they still have to close out the year)
3. I do give Kenny credit for late season acquisitions and the RV hire (although his support is now waning)
4. Ownership remains stubborn in its modus operandi so the ML team must succeed to validate this MO

As to that Toronto trade, it has not born fruit and they certainly could use some help from that trade at the ML level as they stagger to the finish line.

With Rios, Dunn and Peavy earning their money this year and with Sale emerging as an ace, clearly the Sox have established themselves as a legit AL Central contender, but frankly I don't see this team as a threat to advance in the playoffs if they manage to make it that far. And with the farm system still rated extremely poor, I can't honestly say the future is bright. And given the ML roster has alot of age, the organization as a whole is facing a challenging future. Then factor in the lack of fan support (poor marketing dept?) makes the revenue equation that much more problematic at all levels.

No, my characterization of the Sox as "the shittiest in all of baseball" hasn't proven accurate this season, but clearly overall they are middle of the pack AT BEST and in reality, probably a lower third tier franchise with MAJOR CHALLENGES AHEAD...

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SomeGuy

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:54 pm

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cpguy wrote:

Keeping Score wrote:

cpguy wrote:

Won't happen. Although it would be hilarious if it did.

Surprised you still come around after this monstrosity:

cpguy wrote:

Stay the fuck outta White Sox business.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:04 am

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By the way, the White Sox are 9-20 vs. Detroit & Kansas City respectively starting this 4 game series. These are the mound matchups for this Tigers' series at U.S. Cellular Field:

TONIGHT: 7:10P, WCIU 26 (WGN Sports on The U) & 670 The SCORE/White Sox Radio Network
DET: 49 Rick Porcello (RHP; 9-11, 4.58 ERA) vs. CHW: 62 Jose Quintana (LHP; 5-4, 3.68 ERA)

TUESDAY: 7:10P, Comcast/NBC SportsNet Chicago & 670 The SCORE/White Sox Radio Network
DET: 58 Doug Fister (RHP; 8-8, 3.54 ERA) vs. CHW: 44 Jake Peavy (RHP; 10-10, 3.22 ERA)

WEDNESDAY: 7:10P, Comcast/NBC SportsNet Chicago & 670 The SCORE/White Sox Radio Network
DET: 37 Max Scherzer (RHP; 15-6, 3.85 ERA) vs. CHW: 58 Francisco Liriano (LHP; 5-11, 5.25 ERA)

THURSDAY: 7:10P, Comcast/NBC SportsNet Chicago & 670 The SCORE/White Sox Radio Network
DET: 35 Justin Verlander (RHP; 13-8, 2.91 ERA) vs. CHW: 49 Chris Sale (LHP; 16-6, 2.88 ERA)

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Gloopan Kuratz

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:10 am

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Thanks for the jersey numbers. It helps me with my scorecard.

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Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:12 am

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SHARK, who ya got winning the series?

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:14 am

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I think the Sox win the division in this series

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 am

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Sure am glad KW picked up a veteran bat at the trade deadline.

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Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:36 am

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Every fucking time I set foot in this ballpark this season, Jose Fucking Quintana has the ball.

I'm sick of watching this fucker pitch.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:37 am

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It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

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Hawkeye Vince

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:45 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

Sure am glad KW picked up a veteran bat at the trade deadline.

COME ON

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Hawkeye Vince

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:46 am

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Keyser Soze wrote:

It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

Until it's reported by Shark - this is hearsay.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:47 am

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Hawkeye Vince wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

Until it's reported by Shark - this is hearsay.

Therefore completely admissible here in Illinois.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:34 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Hawkeye Vince wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

Until it's reported by Shark - this is hearsay.

Therefore completely admissible here in Illinois.

Guys, Gavin Floyd is eligible to come off the DL as soon as tomorrow, according to The SCORE's Chris "Ranger" Rongey. There's a chance that Floyd pitches the finale of that Tigers' series instead of Sale vs. Justin Verlander Thursday night, but I'm not sure what the team's plan is for Floyd moving forward.

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Hank Scorpio

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:39 pm

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I wouldnt worry too much about the Tigers.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:41 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I wouldnt worry too much about the Tigers.

They are defensively...offensive. :lol:

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Apologist

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:43 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

Sure am glad KW picked up a veteran bat at the trade deadline.

Might as well shop before the deadline, for pennies on the dollar!

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:44 pm

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Apologist wrote:

Hatchetman wrote:

Sure am glad KW picked up a veteran bat at the trade deadline.

Might as well shop before the deadline, for pennies on the dollar!

Hopefully he has that same reaction if the White Sox take 3 out of 4 or sweeps the Tigers.

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Gloopan Kuratz

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:53 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I wouldnt worry too much about the Tigers.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:01 pm

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Keyser Soze wrote:

It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

I don't see the logic in that given Sale's home/away numbers and the importance of the games against the Tigers.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:07 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

I don't see the logic in that given Sale's home/away numbers and the importance of the games against the Tigers.

However, as maddeningly inconsistent as Gavin Floyd has been overall, he's historically done very well vs. Detroit.

Something else to consider. The White Sox have just 1 more scheduled off day the rest of this regular season, and that's one week from today. While they haven't necessarily made their plans following this series, the Sox would like to give guys like Chris Sale & tonight's starter, Jose Quintana, extra rest between now & the rest of the 162-game season. It's also unclear if Sale might be looking at a Stephen Strasburg-like innings limit like what the Nationals have done in shutting Stephen down.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:47 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

It sounds like Gavin will return this week either on Wednesday or Thursday. Unless the Sox lose the first 3 games that will probably push Sale back to Friday in Minnesota.

I don't see the logic in that given Sale's home/away numbers and the importance of the games against the Tigers.

Gavin is 7-2 3.42 in his career and 1-0 1.38 in 2 starts this year against the Tigers. It will give Sale an extra day of rest and I'll be able to watch him pitch this weekend in Minnesota.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:50 pm

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Good news, White Sox fans. Kevin Youkilis is back in tonight's lineup. Bad news, White Sox fans. Adam Dunn isn't and guess who's batting 3rd? It's RV's new buddy, that's who...

30 Alejandro De Aza CF (L)
20 Kevin Youkilis 3B (R)
28 DeWayne Wise LF (L)
14 Paul Konerko 1B (R)
51 Alex Rios RF (R)
12 A.J. Pierzynski C (L)
24 Dayan Viciedo DH (R)
10 Alexei Ramirez SS (R)
15 Gordon Beckham 2B (R)
Starting Pitcher: 62 Jose Quintana (LHP; 5-4, 3.68 ERA)

As for the Tigers...

14 Austin Jackson CF (L)
25 Ryan Raburn LF (R)
24 Miguel Cabrera 3B (R)
28 Prince Fielder 1B (L)
21 Delmon Young DH (R)
27 Jhonny Peralta SS (R)
34 Avisail Garcia RF (R)
4 Omar Infante 2B (R)
9 Gerald Laird C (R)
Starting Pitcher: 49 Rick Porcello (RHP; 9-11, 4.58 ERA)

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:50 pm

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When Quintana first came up he worked fast. Now he works slower than shit. They really have to work with him to get him back to that get it and throw it mode.

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beni hanna

Post subject: Re: 9/10 - 9/13: The End

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:54 pm