This entire conference blows.

Going to be a brutal season of watching this shit.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

There is absolutely no way NIU could be middle-of-the-pack in this conference.

There is just no way. The gap is too large.

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Northwestern is the de facto cream of the class.

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That's probably true, but I do find it a bit strange that it's being pointed out in a week where the conference went 10-2. How 'bout them Illini!

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The de facto cream of the class, is who it usually is, Michigan and Ohio State.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Out of the 4 wins the Big Ten has against BCS Automatic Qualifying Schools, Northwestern has 3 of em.

No cupcakes for the Wildcats!

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It wasn't too long ago that NU was everyone's favorite cupcake.

Yeah that is a completely deceiving record there.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

You're my favorite cupcake.

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THe NU once being a cupcake and the fact you always want me to wear purple now makes sense.

My brother said it well. If you had told him in the 80s there'd be a time when 6 wins would be considered a letdown season he would have called you crazy.

I am a fan of Northwestern but since Illinois is our state school I root for them as well except when they play NU.

tOSU has been bad. No reason UCF and Cal should've been close games when playing at the Horseshoe. The defense was supposed to be a strength with so many returning starters but has sucked shit.

They are still the best two teams in the conference.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

True, which is really depressing.

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He says after a one-point home win over the third-best service academy.

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Fire Phil Emery

Smart fans don't watch college sports.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

So margin of victory matters in this discussion, right?

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It's certainly not a data point in NIU's favor.

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Fire Phil Emery

I see. Was it a data point in the Big 10's favor two weeks ago?

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I think I've been on record as saying the Big Ten sucks pretty hard this season. If I'm not, I'll establish the record here: the Big Ten sucks pretty hard this season.

That being said, NIU is 2-6 in their past eight teams in the Big Ten, and they haven't exactly been playing the meat of the conference. Assuming Indiana and Penn State don't win seven wins, which I feel pretty safe assuming, this is going to be season number nine in a row since a MAC team has beaten a Big Ten team that finishes better than .500. So yes, even in this crappy conference, NIU would finish near the bottom.

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Fire Phil Emery

I'll take this as another data point in NIU's favor in this discussion.

NIU would be a middle of the pack team in the Big 10 year in and year out.

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Maybe this year, maybe. But year in and year out, no.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

One year out of every 4-5 is all that half the teams in the Big 10 accomplish.........maybe...so I guess they'd fit right in!

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3-37 all time against the Big Ten...huh.

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Git on back there.

You forgot the one tie

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

It's a different world in CFB now. You can discount everything prior to........8-10 years ago.
You probably knew that though.

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NIU couldn't possibly do worse than Indiana has.

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