Ok. Cool.

Lets just put this out there right now: The debate over which teams entire fanbase is more concerned with the others will rage on....but as far as the CSFMB goes....its dead even. There are hates and non carers on both sides

IMU , if Keith Law ever sees you he's going to literally kill you.


I think dolphin is over estimating cub fan theo4 adoration (at least on this board) and white sox young talent

I don't know many people counting on Vitters and Jackson.

More like counting on Soler and Almora. Vitters and Jackson are about as relevant as LaHair or Campana

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Rank? These guys are major leaguers. The opinions of the obscurity peddlers mean nothing at this point. There is quantifiable data available at the MLB level. Jones was not solid (whatever that means because solid to me means a guy I would want on my team), he was excellent. Reed was not solid, he was good. Viciedo I guess would be in that solid category.

That is 12% of your roster made up of rookies who project to long careers as everyday players at the MLB level. Throw in the additional guys and you have yourself a nice base of MLB proven talent should you choose to go into full rebuild.

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As RPB correctly pointed out, this goes both ways.

At any given time during the baseball season, the White Sox section is bombarded by Cubs fans. This cannot be denied.

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We are on the hook for pasta though. Can't be helped.

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Oh yes you do. They might be islands, but they are still protectorates. Consider them the Virgin Islands.

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And cpguy. And bigfan.

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By the way, who is gonna take credit for the NotElmhurstSteve twitter feed?

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Now, how would I have ever gotten the perception that Cubs fans adored Epstein.

The love for the guy has bordered on the rediculous this year.

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Bombarded? That's what we're calling bigfan taking shots at Reinsdorf? Get over yourself, Phishy.

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Probably because a lot of people say it like "Ree-diculous"

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Of those three, maybe 1 of them has a long career....maybe.

You say cub fans buy into hype but you're projecting three young guys with one decent season to be proj
ected for long careers.

Ill bet you were counting on.long careers from Jason Bere, Mike Caruso and Joe Borchard as well


They have some decent young talent. A small pct of them will work out long term. You're describing them as if they're loaded. They are not.

Andcthe cub system (many left over from the Henry drafts) is better than you indicate.

Cub fans needn't apologize for following prospects. Its too bad people here don't actually read what's written about those

Yes I was speaking of the data and those who analyze it.

Think of how ridiculous you sound comparing any minor league player to Sale right now. Not only would Sale be the top prospect in the Cubs "system" he would be the top pitcher on any team called the Cubs in the last 5+ years.

But no, that is not what I am saying. I could give a fuck about Cub prospects. I follow major league teams. What I do know is that should two of Epstien's top picks from this draft be productive major leaguers within two years of being drafted, you would swoon

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#1 That makes no sense. Jackson is a Henry guy
#2 Id like some evidence of this theo adoration. I've seen sox fans talk of it. I've seen Media outlets print dumb pics. Haven't yet seen a cub fan adore Theo

What I said is accurate. I suggest you take your head out of your rectum.

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in the minor leagues...peddlers of obscurity observing the vast sea of never will be and lording the information over those with gainful employment

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just a vast soxwing conspiracy going on to make cubs fans look bad

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Im not doing that. You named Sale with Reed so I used them. Sale is better than the prospects obviously. Reed would not be ahead of Rizzo, Soler, or Baez and probably a few others when speaking long term.

You overrate your young guys like you accuse Cub fans of doing.


And you're last line is complete bullshit. I don't swoon. I am not close to a homer. You're just throwing out bullshit because you're mad. Go somewhere else with that garbage

Wrong again. IMU speaking of Jones, Reed, and De Azas major league numbers and how you ate misleading them and projecting with your heart.

OK. I will take it to the Sox forum...

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So you have no evidence and are just pretty much saying whatever. Good talk.


This board has 1000s of posts on the cubs all year. Id like to see ONE post that gives Theo adoration.

I don't have time to read thru the threads, but I just went back and glanced at pages like 4 and 5 in the Cubs forum. I saw about 15-20 Theo threads. I'm sure there are multiple examples of Theo adoration there.

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Actually it's mostly like this

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ok dolphin, you keep fighting imaginary theo adoring adoring cub fans and projecting long careers for middle relievers. I mistakenly thought you could discuss baseball rationally. I will not makeep that mistake going further.


Cantt wait for the next 14 years of the Addison Reed era!

Right...they're probably in there. No sense in actually looking.

BTW crediting him with the two ws he won is not adoration

Here are some of the threads. I have not read them. A lot of them are pretty lengthy. And this doesn't even include the threads started by jimmypasta...and I think I skipped most of bigfan's as well

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Now, how would I have ever gotten the perception that Cubs fans adored Epstein.

The love for the guy has bordered on the rediculous this year.[/quote]
#1 That makes no sense. Jackson is a Henry guy
#2 Id like some evidence of this theo adoration. I've seen sox fans talk of it. I've seen Media outlets print dumb pics. Haven't yet seen a cub fan adore Theo[/quote]

just a vast soxwing conspiracy going on to make cubs fans look bad[/quote]
So you have no evidence and are just pretty much saying whatever. Good talk.


This board has 1000s of posts on the cubs all year. Id like to see ONE post that gives Theo adoration.[/quote]

1) I don't buy into your theory that the media creates the Theo adoration rather than reflecting it so I would submit, among other cover stories, a picture of a guy walking on water in an analogy to a person I consider the literal God of all things known and unknown

2) Steve's posts in this section have boiled down to nothing more than the presence of Epstien ensuring the rebuild's future success.

maybe I'll spend some time researching further because you say you are not satisfied.

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I don't read anything Steve posts but having confidence in a successful gm is not adoration.

Kenny gets more undue props than Theo on this board


And even if cub fans were like that....I am Not. So don't tell me id swoon. It couldn't be further from the truth.

My first post on this board was ripping the 97 win cubs as they entered the post season. So direct your bullshit elsewhere

Middle relievers aren't critical components to a team and don't have long careers?

You act as if Reed winning the closer's role and producing in that position doesn't portend to some success.

That is irrational discussion.

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