the talent level is not that far off from other teams..on defense the talent level has been there and those guys would produce under any coach..3 hall of famers and a very good tilman..lovie has had a say in the talent that they have missed on and on some real bad free agent signings, and awful hirings on his coaching staff..i guess this time next year when lovie will have made the playoffs once in the last 6 years he will still be a great coach? it is the 4 highest paid head coaches job to assemble his coaching staff on both sides of the ball.you can call me negative and i would counter you have very low expectations

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It is a results oriented league. 71-57 is my definition of good. What is yours?

As was written on page 1, he is not great, which would include playoff success and sustained dominance.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

If Lovie were fired, he would be a head coach of another team within 12 months.

Jeff Fisher had a fairly similar track record to Lovie and he had bidding war for his services.

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Lovie has played a significant role in the draft. I've heard a couple reporters say that Danieal Manning, Dan Bazuin, and Michael Okwo were all "his" picks. So, obviously, was Archuletta.

I slightly disagree with Coast's perspective in that I don't think a coach can be considered "bad" due to offensive rankings when the goal of the game is to win. Nevertheless, while I think Lovie is an above average coach, I also think he should be fired. NFL teams simply can't be successful while ignoring offensive football given that the league emphasizes offense over defense. I also agree with those who say Lovie's scheme is outmoded. Due to rules changes and an increasing skill level among quarterbacks, offenses are now much more proficient at moving the ball consistently with shorter passes. And converting on third-and-long has also become much more commonplace.

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The Bears had a defensive minded GM. That's why you had so many historic failures from the draft. They usually did their best job in free agency. We all know you can't build an offense that way.

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Also Angelo had full control over over everything until Lovie got a new contract. At that point he was given control of the 53 man roster.

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I have no idea what the above means exactly, but Lovie mirrors Angelo in his poor performance as a talent evaluator. Regardless of what you say, Lovie's voice figured significantly in several Bears draft picks. From the beginning of his regime, Angelo defined himself as a "consensus builder" who gave a lot of weight to the opinion of the coaching staff. This approach certainly isn't unusual and helps identify Lovie as a responsible party in the Bears' awful draft classes of the past several years.

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I think I concluded this in my original post.

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Yes, but others disagree.

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Results that matter would be making the playoffs a majority of the time. Not quite there.

More generally, take any employee who is really good at 2/3 of their job and really bad at 1/3. in most organizations, including mine, that kind of person gets an average rating, not better than average or good. To be "good" overall, you have to succeed a majority of the time and can't be awful at 1/3 of your job.

....unless you're a Daley.

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lovie will get another job after he is fired here..but he will be exposed and fired from there after 3 years...everyone was breaking ron zooks' balls because he hired more expierenced coaches to do more while he did less and the team improved..lovie did the exact same thing here and gets praised.

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you know the situations are not analagous

I think the great coaches have playoff success. Good coaches do what Lovie does. Average coaches stick around for a few years hovering between 7-9 and 9-7. Childress from the Vikings is an example of an average coach. Lovie is a step above average and several steps below great.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Or play baseball or gamble.

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My comments and defense of Lovie stands. While I don't like the bend don't break philosophy, it has certainly worked during his time here. Kudos Lovie.

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This. He sometimes can make you say "What tha fuck?" out loud but he is a good coach. He most likely will be a HC for life with the Bears and I am ok with that.

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RFDC thinks I'm retarded.

You gotta give Lovie props. He might win NFC coach of the year this year & after the bears go 12-4 & play the Niners in the NFC championship game, he'll get a 3 year extension.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

A good coach? Mostly. Win a super bowl.

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Dr Ken?



See, a Green Bay fan likes him, probably because he's no good for us!

After Jerry Angelo nearly buried his ass with suspect picks.

Lovie struggles to manage the clock too often. Other than that he has proven that his systems work well with sub par talent.

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Nice attack article again in the DH today Seacrest. You sure have a big interest in running Lovie out of town. I am so sick of the haters. Lovie has built one of the most fun defenses to watch over his tenure. You just keep waiting for him to fail, and yet he continues to prove the skeptics wrong. Here's hoping he wins the Super Bowl so that he can get a 5 year extension, and I can continue to watch him shove it up the world's a$$!

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Fair enough. There are certainly better coaches than Lovie. But I feel he is consistent and under appreciated by Chicago fans. He preaches a certain style of defense and special teams that have been wildly successful. Unfortunately, he has near zero offensive skills, and it has shown. Here's hoping that he finally has enough offense to win the big one.

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Well he blamed everyone but Tiger for the Ryder Cup collapse a few weeks ago. Now he is worried that the Bears are going to extend Lovie. Goes back to what I have always said- his criticism is completely biased. He has the guys he likes and guys he does not. He protects the ones he likes, and attacks the ones he does not. It clouds all of his opinions because of the obvious lack of objectivity. I continue to be baffled by Lovie hate. People do not understand him at all, and I happen to think he is a good coach. I love the fact that he doesn't give into the media. He does it his way.

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I think more of us agree with you than disagree with you about Lovie being a good coach.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I think Lovie should be tortured on PPV television.

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Well he reportedly does not swear and is mild mannered, so it would either be really boring or you'd just be testing his resolve!

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Me either.

Typing out both sides of my keyboard. Channeling my inner Obamney.

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According to Terry, the Bears have begun negotiating a contract extension with Lovie Smith.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan