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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:23 am 
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I don't think my son gets enough homework, frankly.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:24 am 
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For the parents of school-aged kids, how would you say the "quantity" of the homework is? Regardless of the subject or relevance of the assignment - are your kids getting less/more homework than you would expect them to?


It varies but there seems to be less this year in 8th grade than last year. At times last year it was over the top.

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I ask because there is a "new" trend in schools toward giving less and less homework (or even none in some cases). There are several reasons that are given, but some of the big ones are:

a). while it is extra practice, many students end up doing the homework incorrectly or wrong all together - thereby reinforcing an incorrect method and forcing the student to "back track" the next day in order to do it correctly. Whereas a teacher that emphasizes in-class work over homework is available to correct mistakes immediately and reinforce the correct way of completing the work as they complete it in class.

b). many teachers place too much weight on the homework when it comes to grading (the example above is a good reason why this could be a problem).

I'm not saying I support either philosophy, I just know that it is done in many schools. Just curious if it happens in some of your schools.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:35 am 
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I ask because there is a "new" trend in schools toward giving less and less homework (or even none in some cases). There are several reasons that are given, but some of the big ones are:

a). while it is extra practice, many students end up doing the homework incorrectly or wrong all together - thereby reinforcing an incorrect method and forcing the student to "back track" the next day in order to do it correctly. Whereas a teacher that emphasizes in-class work over homework is available to correct mistakes immediately and reinforce the correct way of completing the work as they complete it in class.

b). many teachers place too much weight on the homework when it comes to grading (the example above is a good reason why this could be a problem).

I'm not saying I support either philosophy, I just know that it is done in many schools. Just curious if it happens in some of your schools.

Out of curiosity, what is the teacher to student ratio at your school. The numbers are getting off the charts here, and that is a major concern of mine.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:57 am 
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Homework and tests are being phased out at schools in favor of "cooperative learning" in order to more easily pass kids to meet "No Child Left Behind" standards.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:45 am 
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Homework and tests are being phased out at schools in favor of "cooperative learning" in order to more easily pass kids to meet "No Child Left Behind" standards.

Homework and classroom tests have zero bearing on NCLB.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:53 am 
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spanky wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Homework and tests are being phased out at schools in favor of "cooperative learning" in order to more easily pass kids to meet "No Child Left Behind" standards.

Homework and classroom tests have zero bearing on NCLB.


If kids fail, teachers then fail, then districts don't get money.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
spanky wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Homework and tests are being phased out at schools in favor of "cooperative learning" in order to more easily pass kids to meet "No Child Left Behind" standards.

Homework and classroom tests have zero bearing on NCLB.


If kids fail, teachers then fail, then districts don't get money.

Well, there are a few flaws in your logic, but quickly:

1. Many districts opt out of the federal money anyway because it is such a small amount. Meaning they can ignore NCLB. Meaning the federal money is 3rd on the list, at best, of the funding that schools rely on. NCLB is a federal education initiative.

2. You mean "fail" as in "student has to repeat ___ grade". That's not what "No Child Left Behind" looks at. That's not the meaning of "left behind".

3. The standardized test scores are what is important (ISAT/PSAE). Common thinking would suggest that homework and classroom tests would help to prepare a student for the standardized test. That would be the opposite of what your reasoning is. In other words, you should be saying that schools give more homework and tests in order to meet NCLB standards. But you are saying the opposite, which clearly isn't true.

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spanky wrote:
I ask because there is a "new" trend in schools toward giving less and less homework (or even none in some cases). There are several reasons that are given, but some of the big ones are:

a). while it is extra practice, many students end up doing the homework incorrectly or wrong all together - thereby reinforcing an incorrect method and forcing the student to "back track" the next day in order to do it correctly. Whereas a teacher that emphasizes in-class work over homework is available to correct mistakes immediately and reinforce the correct way of completing the work as they complete it in class.

b). many teachers place too much weight on the homework when it comes to grading (the example above is a good reason why this could be a problem).

I'm not saying I support either philosophy, I just know that it is done in many schools. Just curious if it happens in some of your schools.


I feel like there is a lot less direction now in a lot of ways. When I was in school there was an almost set schedule on things. Spelling every night for the week. Words 5x, definitions, write in a sentence, study for test. We'd get a list and have 2 bonus words. Now we have 3 seperate lists of spelling words, about 10 words each and the last one is completely optional. The parent gets to choose how to teach them, which I think is stupid.

Once a week we had a small report due. They gave you a subject. You had to draw a picture then write a paragragh about it and staple it. My son seems to have bigger projects that I seem to end up working on more. I hate that.

Social studies was 1 time a week for homework you read the text/chapter then answered 3-5 questions. Phonics worksheet was once a week. Math you learned your lesson then did 10-20 problems 2 or 3 times a week. We did handwriting sheets.

Our school has this yellow sheet they send home. We are suppose to read at least 20 minutes every night and discuss things. Practice Math for at least 10 minutes. Do spelling words and we usually have some sort of worksheet. They have given us a few apps and websites that help but when the kid is done I have to go find other things. That's bunk sometimes. You want them to do math send out the worksheet or tell me the site for the day. You want them to read give me 2 pages of a story you want them to read and questions for it. I have no idea what is age appropriate sometimes and everybody in the class is even more on different levels as a result. I have never seen a text book from school. There is also too much ask your neighbor and group stuff at this age. They are copying and are not learning to be responsible for themselves. I'm afraid some kids are going to slip through the cracks because nobody knows what they are really doing.


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My eighth grade daughter has homework about 3 nights a week, junior son more like four of five, both have more time to complete assignments during the school day than I remember.

My wife teaches first and second grades in our church-operated school, she has 26 in the room this year, one of her largest groups in 25+ years.

I think the regional dialect of "branches" may be exposed by this textbook, most likely a national printer.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:05 pm 
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My 3rd grader gets and hour of homework on M-Th. That seem excessive to me. He also has various reports due twice a month. It seems pretty damn excessive to me.

My kindegartener gets homework twice a week.

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