The workers were judged qualified by other towns.

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Isn't that apparent? The city considers you unqualified if you don't have union employees, so that is unqualified in this situation.

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And?

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My reaction as well. One of the more nonsensical posts I have seen from dolphin.

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The people who don't give out candy on Halloween are still bigger douchebags.

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Are you saying that they were wrong judging them as qualified?

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Every community that is without union electrician employees has unqualified labor running amok? Come on.

I don't know that. They could be (although look at how many different ultimately fraudulent companies get qualified by the city of chicago). If they are, does that mean that they are qualified for the differences in standards in a dramatically different town 1,000 miles away?

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Yep and no power. Thank goodness for candles and the moon.

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I have a lot of respect for you and your thoughts but I don't know how else to say this... That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board.

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Qualified is determined by the individual hiring the person. Seaside determines non union to be unqualified. They may be competent. They may not be.

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Yes, that does mean they are qualified. Rescue/construction/repair operations dont change dramatically depending on the environment. They are utilitizing extremely similar skills and equipment no matter where they go.

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A town further away decided they were qualified to help.

Once again, the only "qualification" listed that they didn't have was being in a specific union.

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It really is very basic, so I would have expected you to understand. If only certification by a union is a basis for qualification and a person is not certified then, in Seaside, NJ, that person is adjudged unqualified for city work.

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Right. All of us get that. You say to blindly trust the city in this area. I think thats extremely naive/dumb. Rescue/repair workers who aren't in a union are not in any way more or less qualified than a union employee of the same industry. You have to look at their skills/ability. This isn't an issue of them not being qualified, because most towns that arent heavily unionized have found them to be qualified. This is a clear-cut union protecting action. That's it. It's completely void of any pragmatic logic.

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Nobody is arguing that. We know that. We are saying that's a very stupid stipulation considering the circumstances. You say it's not. That is the difference and the crux of the debate in this thread, as far as I can tell.

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Union certification brings with it more than just filling out a card and paying dues. It requires a level of education and expertise with subsequent continuing education. So saying it is the only thing while technically correct, is not entirely accurate.

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Not in the context of benni's question.

Why is it a stupid stipulation? It seems to me the assumption is that the only factor taken into account by the city in that requirement is the power of the union in NJ. I am telling you there are very logical reasons to insist on union workers for government work.

The elephant in the room in this story is whether restoration of power in the city of seaside was demonstably delayed by this decision. It seems pretty clear to me that the answer was purposely avoided by the reporter.

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I tend to hold this opinion as well, especially whenever I see one of those stupid-ass inflatable rats sitting near a new building project.

THAT AMUSEMENT PARK LOOKS FUCKING RADICAL AWESOME

I think it's a map on Black Ops II.

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Governor Christie comes around and shakes everyone's hand after 7-straight kills.

Here is your update. NY and NJ are accepting some unqualified laborers from other state utilities.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... -from-n.j/

Wouldn't more people working to restore power to Seaside result in the power getting turn back on quicker?

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Not necessarily. There is no reporting in the story that they don't have an adequate amount of people. This story reads like an expose. These expose stories usually start with the harm to taxpayers in big flashy words.

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So you expect me to believe that having more people to remove trees and debris, and having more people fix downed power lines/poles would not get the work done quicker?

I don't buy that for a second.

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Good Dolphin is doing an excellent job of baiting/trolling in this thread

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it wasnt Cedar Point, but that amusement park was a lot of fun for the kids, right out there on the Atlantic. Seaside Heights at night was a lot of fun all lit up, lots of things to do and great food (certainly not healthy) on the boardwalk. I am glad that i was able to get my family there one time last summer for a quick vacation, and have a cheesesteak at the Midway Steakhouse on the boardwalk. That picture posted above is heartbreaking.

btw: the Jersey Shore house is the brown Georgian style behind the pink wall to the right...

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