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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:36 pm 
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It's exactly the day to do it. Agree with the idea or not, don't be afraid to have a discussion.

Looking at you Mr. President. Put on the big boy pants and lead.

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It's said after every incident like this. The extended clip and assault weapons need to be restricted.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:46 pm 
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If that's his opinion, fine.

Don't be afraid to be honest.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:48 pm 
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Maybe they're all following their hero Limbaugh's (& whoever was on 560am's) lead. While every other news/talk station was covering this horrific matter, the gun advocates/original intent of the Constitution/state's rights folks could only seemingly talk about the need for the Republicans in Congress not to cave on the tax issues. They all seemed to think it was more important to stir up anger against the government and over a tax increase. 8)

I guess the fax from the Heritage Foundation telling them how to talk about this issue hadn't gotten there by 1pm. Maybe just maybe, they've momentarily realized the absolute moral emptiness of their traditional "guns aren't the problem" talking points.

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(Had to, considering who started the thread)

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I would've gone with Bart Gunn, but well played nonetheless.

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It's said after every incident like this. The extended clip and assault weapons need to be restricted.


Is that what the shooter used?


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Just 18 hrs ago, those Republicans in the Michigan House rammed thru a bill making it LEGAL to carry a gun into a school or day care center.

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Will Toyota be offering $1000 off a car for anyone who was effected?

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Reports I've seen are .223/AR-15 but it's early.


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Reports I've seen are .223/AR-15 but it's early.


Gotcha.


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Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's exactly the day to do it. Agree with the idea or not, don't be afraid to have a discussion.

Looking at you Mr. President. Put on the big boy pants and lead.


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These motherfuckers must think we are pretty fucking stupid. Interesting timing for a fucking gruesome Psy-Op like that (i.e. in the wake of the Illinois decision). I firmly believe that "Regular People" don't do shit like this - only people who have had their brains scrambled and who have been made into Manchurian Candidates do shit like this.

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These motherfuckers must think we are pretty fucking stupid. Interesting timing for a fucking gruesome Psy-Op like that (i.e. in the wake of the Illinois decision). I firmly believe that "Regular People" don't do shit like this - only people who have had their brains scrambled and who have been made into Manchurian Candidates do shit like this.


Honesty is cool. I think believing that is foolish, but open dialogue is a good thing.

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I don't own a gun.

I don't like guns.

I'm not real comfortable around guns either.

I do understand more and more with each passing day why others feel a need to own guns.

I respect their decision to choose gun ownership.

I think we will find once again in this instance that guns made this crime more horrific then it would have been otherwise.

I believe that it would have been with or without a gun.

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I don't own a gun.

I don't like guns.

I'm not real comfortable around guns either.

I do understand more and more with each passing day why others feel a need to own guns.

I respect their decision to choose gun ownership.

I think we will find once again in this instance that guns made this crime more horrific then it would have been otherwise.

I believe that it would have been with or without a gun.


Guns made it more horrific and it could have happened without the use of guns, but it is likely far fewer people would have died.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
I don't own a gun.

I don't like guns.

I'm not real comfortable around guns either.

I do understand more and more with each passing day why others feel a need to own guns.

I respect their decision to choose gun ownership.

I think we will find once again in this instance that guns made this crime more horrific then it would have been otherwise.

I believe that it would have been with or without a gun.


Guns made it more horrific and it could have happened without the use of guns, but it is likely far fewer people would have died.


I agree. My bad for not making that point more clear.

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Those people can vote. They probably don't though.

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Okay.

Today is indeed not the day to talk about it. Today is for emotional issues ... grieving, consolation, quiet doggedness hoping to get through this without "permanent" emotional scarring - somehow, etc.

The "need" to talk about the frankly very nebulous topic of "gun control" is no more necessary today than it was yesterday .... technically, in fact, today is too late to talk about it, at least for some folks' taste in our country today. Nobody is at any more risk today than they were yesterday .... it's just we were shown that, occasionally, the roulette wheel of life does occasionally land on double-zero.

Knee-jerk emotional responses get us places like Japanese internment camps and legislation such as The Patriot Act. No thanks, I'll pass, I've heard that song before.

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All for Auto and Semi weapons to be illegal, would also like to see concealed handguns illegal, but even if so, does it really stop anything?

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