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Minooka Meatball

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:13 am

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Makaveli wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Makaveli wrote:

He was a QB coach that bounced around the NFL. NO ONE WANTED HIM FOR 10 YEARS! In the NFL 10 years isn't "recent" experience. He couldn't even get a college job.

He was OC for 4 teams, including a Super Bowl team. You're just trying to make it seem worse.

Plus, you don't know he "couldn't get a college job". I heard of 1, maybe 2, that he might even have been considered for so you don't really know his mindset. Sounds like Walsh, who he really respected, advised him to get head coaching experience. Who's to say he couldn't have come back to the NFL as an OC and chose not to pursue it to develop the HC experience. People are making a lot of assumptions about his history.

That said, he's a gamble but not that much moreso than any other hot OC candidate (of which there weren't many). Would Arians have been better? Why did he coach for 456 years without anyone wanting him as an HC? But, it seems he did OK when given the chance. It's always a crapshoot at some level. This is about Emery. Do we trust his judgement? Find out.

Jacksonville should hire a guy like this. A team that's rebuilding should hire a guy like this. This was easily the best available opening and this is the best the Bears could do. I don't think I have to make him seem worse. The facts do a pretty good job at that. All the other candidates have had some recent success. Will he send the punting unit out after 2nd down? Right now do you actually feel he is an upgrade over Lovie?

And that's what they did. Maybe not the upcoming season, but the one after that...

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:14 am

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:15 am

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Can I point out that potential Coach of the Year Bruce Arians will win the award by going 9-3 with 8 wins against team with losing records and a win in his first week against Green Bay.

So, I give a big ol' shoulder shrug to all of these guys. Trestman? Sure, try it. Whatever. You fired Lovie so...here we go.

Doc you are on fire today. Nice work.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:16 am

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Not sure why people are saying Trestman is not an upgrade over Lovie. Trestman has worked with some great QBs (Young, Gannon, etc.) and is an OFFENSIVE mind. Lovie couldn't call an offensive play if it bit him in the ass.

Let's see how things play out this season and the next. If Trestman can bring this offensive into the top 15 consistently, coupled with the current defensive scheme, I don't see how this can be a losing situation.

If Marinelli stays and they keep the Cover-2 as the base D, and go after some solid O-lineman, I am good with this pick.

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Makaveli

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:17 am

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

That's true but those other guys coached up rookies and changed their offenses on the fly to fit the talent. Everyone here thought the Colts and Seahawks would be drafting in the top 10 next season. I'm just a little pissed now. I'm sure by July I'll be on board.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:19 am

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

You should also point out that the Colts far exceeded expectations this year. At the beginning of the season, the Colts were regarded as a laughingstock but concluded 2012 as one of the "teams to watch" for the future.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:19 am

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Makaveli

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:19 am

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RFDC wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Doc you are on fire today. Nice work.

Why do you seemingly always have the "let's wait and see approach"? Why do you have so much trust in management? What are you true feelings?

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Don Tiny

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:20 am

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Has anyone mentioned that Tice is officially gone? Apparently our new O-Line AND O-Coordinator is Aaron Kromer, the Saints interim head coach.

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Makaveli

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:21 am

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Don Tiny wrote:

Has anyone mentioned that Tice is officially gone? Apparently our new O-Line AND O-Coordinator is Aaron Kromer, the Saints interim head coach.

Tice should have never been given play calling duties. He doesn't come off as a very smart or creative guy.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:23 am

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You are all in denial. Fire Phil Emery.

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Don Tiny

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:24 am

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Even if you hate the Trestman hire, you might find a silver lining here .....

http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:26 am

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:27 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Well, then people are stupid because they sucked last year because they were forced to stick Curtis Painter in as QB. It's amazing what can happen when you take an 11 win team from 2 years ago and stick a "once in a decade" franchise QB and a couple other high draft picks in.

He did a decent job but it shouldn't have blown anybody's mind that the Colts could actually be good again with a halfway decent QB. And that's all they were...good...good enough to beat the Jacksonvilles and Kansas Citys and Clevelands and Buffalos of the world.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:29 am

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Country Bumpkin wrote:

If Marinelli stays and they keep the Cover-2 as the base D, and go after some solid O-lineman, I am good with this pick.

Why would Marinelli, who is not only a Lovie Guy but owes the resurrection of his ruined career to Lovie, stick around with the guy the Bears fired Lovie for?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:30 am

Curious Hair wrote:

Country Bumpkin wrote:

If Marinelli stays and they keep the Cover-2 as the base D, and go after some solid O-lineman, I am good with this pick.

Why would Marinelli, who is not only a Lovie Guy but owes the resurrection of his ruined career to Lovie, stick around with the guy the Bears fired Lovie for?

I think he's under contract.

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Country Bumpkin

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:33 am

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Curious Hair wrote:

Country Bumpkin wrote:

If Marinelli stays and they keep the Cover-2 as the base D, and go after some solid O-lineman, I am good with this pick.

Why would Marinelli, who is not only a Lovie Guy but owes the resurrection of his ruined career to Lovie, stick around with the guy the Bears fired Lovie for?

Also because no one else has any interest in him and his age would also be a factor. He will most likely not be considered for a HC position again either. He may also not have liked the defensive calls Lovie made. No one knows.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:33 am

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That colts team had a lot of roster changes in the last year, not reallythe same team from painters team... where is. Marinelli going to go? Lovie can't find work.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:40 am

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

If one year ago I had said that the Bears are going to fire Lovie Smith and hire a CFL coach everyone would have laughed and said that is a dumb idea. However, we've all convinced ourselves otherwise because he has a website that name drops and he worked with Jay Cutler for a few months before.

Gutsy move by Emery. He'll be a laughingstock if this doesn't work out.

Very gutsy. They were 10-6 this season, anything below that next season is a step back and uxexceptable. Disappointed they didn't call other coaches. Looks like a money issue, though they say money didn't matter. Should have called BB, Gruden, Zimmer, and others.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:43 am

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Don Zimmer coaches baseball.

Making the playoffs is a step forward. That can be done at 10-6, sometimes even at 9-7 or 8-8

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:45 am

312player wrote:

That colts team had a lot of roster changes in the last year, not reallythe same team from painters team... where is. Marinelli going to go? Lovie can't find work.

Fair enough. I was getting a little fired up.

Still, not shocked that Wayne, Freeney, Mathis, a #1 QB, and some high-level skill position draft picks and free agent signings could beat some bad teams.

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Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:46 am

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schmitty1121 wrote:

They were 10-6 this season, anything below that next season is a step back and uxexceptable. Disappointed they didn't call other coaches. Looks like a money issue, though they say money didn't matter. Should have called BB, Gruden, Zimmer, and others.

Dopey post; we're sending IMU over to drug-test you.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:48 am

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9 years ago,I wanted Wally Buono (CFL Head Coach) to coach the Bears. I think this guy is going to make things exciting. Best of Luck to him.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:49 am

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Country Bumpkin wrote:

Why are you sanguine about the team's defensive progress given the age of key players, the unit's ineffectiveness against good offenses, and the fact that the team's real defensive coordinator, Lovie, is no longer with the team? The Bears are on the verge of requiring a complete defensive overhaul; their new coach has been hired to hold Jay Cutler's hand.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:51 am

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

312player wrote:

That colts team had a lot of roster changes in the last year, not reallythe same team from painters team... where is. Marinelli going to go? Lovie can't find work.

Agreed, and what does coy really even tell ya? Jauron won coy and I think lovie did to.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:54 am

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:05 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Trib front page says it's Trestman

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:14 pm

I like the assistant coach hires already and keeping Marinelli.

If getting Arians meant losing Marinelli, then I'm OK with going this direction. I'm of the likely misguided impression that the Bears can "reload" instead of a complete rebuild. This combo of keeping Marinelli is more likely to accomplish this.

Trestman is surrounding himself with some good, experienced guys so far.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:18 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I'm of the likely misguided impression that the Bears can "reload" instead of a complete rebuild.

With a better Oline, they can absolutely compete for a division title next year. It was still like week 12 or 13 when the Bears were in the drivers seats for the #2 seed.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:18 pm

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I like the assistants hired a lot more than the head coaching hire.

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