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Im starting to lean towards this Tuiassasopo being his boyfriend and them cooking this up as a beard.


The only way it makes sense is if he's gay


So now it's all an elaborate scheme?

Pick a lane.

Why do I have to pick a lane?

Its a fucked up story and no one really knows what truly happened yet

But as per usual, people are being dismissive of things that arent their opinions and calling people dumb, which is a sign of poor self esteem but whatever.


If you're gonna laugh at my theory, I think its fair to ask, again, ....

What do you think happened?


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Seinfeld made an episode about this that took George all the way to the end of the Hamptons with his former in laws.


You think this board is just going to ignore a news story that resembles a Seinfeld episode?

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When you really look at this story, I have no idea why so many adults care all that much other than people like drama.

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It boils down to nothing but an exaggerated version of the old "girlfriend in Niagra Falls" story of camp legend.

Sienfeld made an episode about this that took George all the way to the end of the Hamptons with his former in laws.


George, driving in the car with the Rosses: "And that leads into the master bedroom."
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George: "You want to hear more? The master bedroom opens into the solarium."
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George: "Yes, two solariums. Quite a find. And I have horses, too?"
Mr. Ross: "What are their names?"
George: "Snoopy and Prickly Pete. Should I keep driving?"
Mrs. Ross: "Oh, look, an antique stand. Pull over. We'll buy you a housewarming gift."
George, chuckling to himself: "Housewarming gift."
George, swerving the car to go to the antique stand: "All right, we're taking it up a notch!"

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If this were a movie I would suspect that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo is lying murdered in a bathtub somewhere. That dude has got to have all the answers.

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This sounds reasonable....

Spiegel: Manti, Catfishing And A Plausible Theory
January 17, 2013 8:46 AM



By Matt Spiegel-

(CBS) It can happen. What Manti Te’o is saying happened to him can, and does, happen.

People create online personas completely unlike themselves, to create excitement in their boring lives, to pretend to be what they’ve always envisioned for themselves, or more nefariously to try and dupe the naïve for sport.

And naive, unsuspecting, lonely people fall prey to it. The question is, could Manti Te’o really be one of these people?

I’ve seen the movie Catfish, a couple of times. The film itself may be an elaborate hoax, but the very fact that it’s believable is testament to the phenomenon. The TV series is more straightforward in showing you how often and easily these things take place.

Make a profile on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media. Grab a picture or three from some small town person you wish you were. Target your mark, and let the game begin.

I believe that at the beginning of this story, there is the real possibility that Manti Te’o was the victim of a cruel hoax perpetrated by Roniah Tuiasasopo. Roniah (and others?) created Lennay Kekua; her internet history (and scam attempts) go back to 2008. NFL running back Reagan Mauia says he knew her, even met her (?!) before Manti did. Some things came out late last night on twitter, in this ever-developing story, supporting the premise that Te’o was played.

So let’s grant that Te’o was the victim, initially. I believe at some point, he realized what had happened to him, and joined into the game.

People do that too. I had a friend in Los Angeles, who ended up in an online relationship with a woman he began to realize was full of it. That elusive first face to face meeting always seemed to be held up by odd circumstance. Eventually he realized it was all lies. No, she hadn’t dated a Lakers forward. No, she didn’t have a vacant house on the ocean north of LA.


My friend didn’t just abandon the charade and move on at that point; he continued to call, text, chat, and volley with her. He tried to catch her in her lies. They toyed with each other, making weird power plays in a spiral towards her eventual shame. Ask me for stories sometime after a beverage or three.

I believe Te’o, at some point in the process, became complicit. And it was public by then; the truth would embarrass him, damage his growing public profile, and distract his surprisingly good team.

So the lies grew. They met on the field after a Stanford game in 2009? They would, in father Brian Te’o’s words to the South bend Tribune, “spend time together in Hawaii?” Did those myriad eight hour conversations actually happen, and with whom? Were these lies Manti told to everyone, his parents included?

He has questions to answer obviously. I hope they’re asked today.

And so does Notre Dame.

The timeline says they knew on December 26, that Manti came to them with the “truth” a few weeks after he’d gotten a call from a dead woman. In the weeks leading up to the title game on January 7th they advised Manti to not speak the truth in interviews, so he could stay focused.

Football first, everybody; this is just the latest example of where the priorities will always, always stand.

Deadspin’s phenomenal journalism forced the hurried statements and press conference from Notre Dame and Te’o yesterday, before they had a chance to try and massage the public perception. Now they’re playing catch-up, and sloppily, dangerously so. Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick aligned himself fully with Manti last night, claiming he was 100 percent the victim. That’s a needless precipice upon which to put your university’s reputation.

The truth is going to be incredibly elusive in this story. It always is — that’s the allure of the “relationship” in the first place. That allure can and often does reel in both parties. I think Te’o was played, and then joined in. And of course, there may be something more insidious or personally vulnerable lurking beneath all of it.

Good luck to that young linebacker. His life is a mess. His good name is forever damaged. His psyche is clearly muddled and problematic. And he’ll hear trash talk of epic levels in the NFL.

I have to think he helped do all of that to himself.


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Stephen A Smith just pulled out the "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck" line.

The more I see the more it seems all of these people involved were helping him and tuiososopo with their cover.

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This new use of the word 'beard' really pisses me off. That is all.

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Oh. Ivan was right about Samoans this whole time. Maybe we shouldn't have been mocking him...

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.....and ESPN cuts to commercial as soon as they start insinuating the gay theory.

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I have to claim bullshit here. There is this little thing called Skype that every kid with a laptop and an internet connection use regularly. You can't tell me he'd have an online relationship and not think once to Skype with her.


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I have to claim bullshit here. There is this little thing called Skype that every kid with a laptop and an internet connection use regularly. You can't tell me he'd have an online relationship and not think once to Skype with her.

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Exactly, and he has publicly referenced Skyping with his parents.


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Or how about an I phone for some face time to talk to the love of your life?

You also mean to tell me he never visited the love of his life in the hospital after the car accident? Never visited her after she got cancer? Didn't go to the wake or the funeral?

He's full of shit and the kid thinks he can get away with the cover up.


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Beardown is correct...

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Stephen A Smith just pulled out the "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck" line.

The more I see the more it seems all of these people involved were helping him and tuiososopo with their cover.


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Beardown is correct...

Agreed. Very good points.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Beardown is correct...

No, I think he's off on this one.


Manti probably asked to skype or meet and thats when the hoax started getting found out.


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So its the opinion of most of you that Manti Te'o concocted this whole thing with his friend and was lying from the beginning to help his Heisman hopes?


Is that right?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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No, I think he's off on this one.


Manti probably asked to skype or meet and thats when the hoax started getting found out.


Your version of this seem really far fetched.

We'll see how it shakes out...

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So its the opinion of most of you that Manti Te'o concocted this whole thing with his friend and was lying from the beginning to help his Heisman hopes?


Is that right?

That's what I believe.

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This relationship started in 2009. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was had initially. He realized it, was embarrassed and had to continue the lies to save face because he had made this relationship public.

That's the best I can come up with for him. I actually think he was in on it the entire time.

Call me old fashioned, but I don't think you tell an ESPN reporter that you had a "love of your life" if you never met her.

He started to like the attention he was getting over the dead girlfriend story. He liked getting the sympathy. He's a sicko.


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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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No, I think he's off on this one.


Manti probably asked to skype or meet and thats when the hoax started getting found out.


Your version of this seem really far fetched.

We'll see how it shakes out...

I think it is way more reasonable than thinking he completely made up this story


One source close to Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, the man suspected of being behind the hoax, says he created Lennay Kekua as far back as 2008 and Te'o "wasn't the first person to have an online 'relationship' with her." So it's entirely possible that Tuiasosopo, from a big Hawaii football family, found marks in other local football products—like Reagan Maui'a. But his story of meeting "Kekua" would mean there was an actual, physical woman involved at one point. Every answer leads to twice as many questions.


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I do not think Manti is 100% innocent. He supposedly an academic All American at Notre Dame. I find it very, very hard to believe he could fall for such a hoax.

Wasn't there stories about him visiting her in Hawaii or something? Or that his parents said they were visiting? He's involved somehow.

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Call me old fashioned, but I don't think you tell an ESPN reporter that you had a "love of your life" if you never met her.

Exactly. That is very strong verbiage to describe a woman you've never met in person. Just doesn't make much sense.

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I do not think Manti is 100% innocent. He supposedly an academic All American at Notre Dame. I find it very, very hard to believe he could fall for such a hoax.

Wasn't there stories about him visiting her in Hawaii or something? Or that his parents said they were visiting? He's involved somehow.

What percentage of people that met online, do you think admit to meeting online?


I agree not 100% innocent. Im thinking he joined in on the hoax to make it go away without embarrassment (that didnt work)


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Call me old fashioned, but I don't think you tell an ESPN reporter that you had a "love of your life" if you never met her.

Exactly. That is very strong verbiage to describe a woman you've never met in person. Just doesn't make much sense.

How many online relationships have you guys had?


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I am relieved that Beardown was able to find this thread.

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Call me old fashioned, but I don't think you tell an ESPN reporter that you had a "love of your life" if you never met her.

Exactly. That is very strong verbiage to describe a woman you've never met in person. Just doesn't make much sense.


Yep. Some of the statements made are just to much. I think he's counting on everyone just chalking it up to him being a dummy when he's really not. He knew something at some point. Just not sure when...

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Bet his teammates were giving him a hard time, suspecting he was burrito. Its not like he was going to a sorority party and bang some chicks to get them off his back, so he concocted the fake gf to get them off his back. Then it grew out of control.

This is the only thing that makes sense to me.

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