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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:44 pm 
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There's no need for real talk.

It made no logical sense from a wrestling point of view to put the title on Rock so he could lose it to Cena at Mania.

Punk as the unquestioned greatest champion in forever versus the Legend would be one of the greatest WrestleMania main events in history.

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I'm gonna go grab some beers and jump in on this.

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Don't think about it too much.

It'll only depress you.

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You have to imagine a time without RAW though. Having those kind of matches live every week changed the game. Multiply all the RAW era streaks by 4 to level the playing field.

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I will be watching mania for the digger mitb
cash in after Swagger beats del Rio.

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Cena costs Rock the win at Rumble. Cena puts his career on the line against Rock. Punk v Taker is streak v streak. Taker wins at Mania. The next RAW, Ziggler cashes in, after winning the tag titles. AJ wins the Women's title as well. Stable with almost every title.

The problem is you can't close with Rock v Cena without the title. No matter how much we hate it, it's the biggest draw in the history of pro wrestling. Godfather v Batman Forever? Possible. But they're going with the money option.

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You have to imagine a time without RAW though. Having those kind of matches live every week changed the game. Multiply all the RAW era streaks by 4 to level the playing field.



That's probably true, but I'm pretty much just thinking about it from a marketing standpoint.

What a glorious opportunity they shat on.

The 6th longest reign in the 61 years of the company. The longest reign in the last 25 years by 100 days!

Against the 20 year streak of the Undertaker.


I hear you but what are you going to do if Taker wins. Have his old broke ass with the belt for a week on RAW and then he loses it and vanishes for a year or forever?

Then you have a "grudge match"??? between Rock and Cena?

They fucked this up a long time ago and are just seeing it through.

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I really think you should have had Streak vs Streak this year. I don't care if Taker would have won and dropped the belt the very next night(Maybe have Lesnar come out and destroy him and let Punk win the title back the very next night. Punk gets the belt back and you set up Lesnar vs Taker at WM 30). If you wanted to do Cena vs Rock you can and you find a way to not have it for a title. Nobody in their right fucking mind thinks that Cena isn't going to win WM and get the belt back so the Rock can go do movies again for another year.

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Punk even getting a match with taker is punk getting over. Look are takers last few opponents...not needing the belt to get it over. Punk has to make taker look very week on this raw and the match is sold.

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So the WWE was founded in 1952. 1952.

CM Punk had the 6th longest reign in the 61 year history of the WWE.


Jesus H. Happy Birthday. I show up just in time to realize this turned into a RAW thread.

KS, your research is a little off. But it's essentially company titles and time frames. Still rasslin.

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I would love see to what the room full of people that is the wwe research group. :lol:

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I would love see to what the room full of people that is the wwe research group. :lol:

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Keeping Score wrote:
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The problem is you can't close with Rock v Cena without the title.


Did they not close without it last year?

It was the headline match. Punk v. Y2j didnr have the same draw and those are my two favorite workers.

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Keeping Score wrote:
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KS, you are a dirty sonofabitch.

I'm getting pissed again.

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Watching the Paul Heyman promo on Smackdown hyping the HHH/Lesnar match.

Some people were just blessed with what Heyman has. That man could sell anything.

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In fact, if you really think about, The "E" should've had this Mania end with the Taker/Punk match and Taker getting a win, because when they end with the Cena/Rock match and Cena getting a win, the crowd is gonna shit all over it.

How is the weather report for Sunday evening looking? Mother nature could shit on the match and half the crowd gone by that late into the night...

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2 SUPERSTARS will be making their official debuts at Wrestlemania. How much sense does that make?

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KS, you are a dirty sonofabitch.

I'm getting pissed again.


:bounce:

Let's hear it. :P


Everyone in the world expected Rock to win the belt at the Rumble. It would've been so much better if Punk won.

Cena costs Rock the title. Punk comes out on Raw the next night and declares himself a legend and says he's unbeatable.

Gong.

Start the Undertaker build to Mania. Maybe Punk has to go through Kane at EC.

Meanwhile Cena comes out and talks about how Rock ruined his life and he hasn't been the same since Mania. He wanted to make Rock feel that way. Rock comes out. Staredown. Lights go out. Shield destroys both guys. Cena and Rock team with Ryback against Shield at EC. Rock-Cena dissention leads to Shield win. Mains build starts next night.

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KS, you are a dirty sonofabitch.

I'm getting pissed again.


:bounce:

Let's hear it. :P


Everyone in the world expected Rock to win the belt at the Rumble. It would've been so much better if Punk won.

Cena costs Rock the title. Punk comes out on Raw the next night and declares himself a legend and says he's unbeatable.

Gong.

Start the Undertaker build to Mania. Maybe Punk has to go through Kane at EC.

Meanwhile Cena comes out and talks about how Rock ruined his life and he hasn't been the same since Mania. He wanted to make Rock feel that way. Rock comes out. Staredown. Lights go out. Shield destroys both guys. Cena and Rock team with Ryback against Shield at EC. Rock-Cena dissention leads to Shield win. Mains build starts next night.



Who wins Rumble?

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Speeps, that is great thought. Haven't seen too much off cross collecting builds. To me that is why Henry v. Ryback seemed cool.

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KS, you are a dirty sonofabitch.

I'm getting pissed again.


:bounce:

Let's hear it. :P


Everyone in the world expected Rock to win the belt at the Rumble. It would've been so much better if Punk won.

Cena costs Rock the title. Punk comes out on Raw the next night and declares himself a legend and says he's unbeatable.

Gong.

Start the Undertaker build to Mania. Maybe Punk has to go through Kane at EC.

Meanwhile Cena comes out and talks about how Rock ruined his life and he hasn't been the same since Mania. He wanted to make Rock feel that way. Rock comes out. Staredown. Lights go out. Shield destroys both guys. Cena and Rock team with Ryback against Shield at EC. Rock-Cena dissention leads to Shield win. Mains build starts next night.



Who wins Rumble?


In my scenario Ryback wins and challenges Show for World Title.

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In my scenario Ryback wins and challenges Show for World Title.

In my scenario Ryback and Show are never seen again.

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Chris, kuoje makes the English language tap at the rumble.

Seriously, Swagger ziggler taker, there is a list.

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In my scenario Ryback wins and challenges Show for World Title.

In my scenario Ryback and Show are never seen again.


:lol:

In an ideal world, I agree.

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2 SUPERSTARS will be making their official debuts at Wrestlemania. How much sense does that make?


I think it's five. I can't keep up with you kids tonight. Please keep it up.

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I don't believe my alternative scenario is getting enough love.

At Rumble, Lesnar enters 29. cleans house. Taker enters 30, beats Lesnar. Get's his shot at Punk at Mania.

Taker wins at Mania.

Following night on Raw, Punk gets his rematch.......and whether Punk or Taker wins, doesn't really matter as.......
Lesnar takes out Taker. (History from Rumble and with Heyman/Punk)

Big E and Ziggler come out. Big E takes out Lesnar. Ziggler cashes in on either Punk or Taker.

Sets up:
Taker/Lesnar at next Mania
Lesnar/Big E short term
Ziggler/Punk short term

And would allow for the possible transition of Ziggler to a face.


The only flaw is that there is no way in hell Taker can work 2 nights in a row.

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One thing I noticed in all of our scenarios presented, is that nobody said there should be photos leaked of Taker working a house show, and then Taker showing up at the beginning of Raw, and then a 4-way announced for the right to take on the surprising return of the Undertaker.

Nowhere did I read that.

Aka on the fly booking.

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One thing I noticed in all of our scenarios presented, is that nobody said there should be photos leaked of Taker working a house show, and then Taker showing up at the beginning of Raw, and then a 4-way announced for the right to take on the surprising return of the Undertaker.

Nowhere did I read that.


Because no one here is terminally stupid.

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