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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:28 am 
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Johnathan Gray reportedly topped out at 102 during his Saturday start

Sean Manea missed his weekend start with a sore hip. The injury is not considered serious

HS LHP Rob Kaminsky topped out at 94 during his last start

Kris Bryant hit his 22nd home run

HS OF Ryan Boldt injured his knee diving for a fly ball

Michael Lorenzen (Cal St Fullerton) is finally starting to show his offensive potential and is being considered as a position player instead of a reliever

Clint Frazier hit his 13th home run


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:31 am 
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Austin Meadows must really be something special


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:41 am 
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Who is Gray's agent? I would rather not deal with Appel's douchebag agent but if its him then so be it.

I am leaning towards taking Meadows though and trading for some pitching. I would rather have a good player every day than once every 5 days.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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Austin Meadows must really be something special

Special enough to take ahead of one of those 2 dominant college pitchers?

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:46 am 
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RFDC wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Austin Meadows must really be something special

Special enough to take ahead of one of those 2 dominant college pitchers?

I dont know. That's what Im saying. He keeps getting mentioned with, or above those two guys, so that suggests to me he must be something special.


This thread is gonna be hilarious in 7 years when Appel becomes Jeff Weaver, Gray becomes Greg Olsen (the starter), and Meadows becomes Phil Nevin


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:50 am 
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The more I read the more Clint Frazier sounds better than Meadows. Meadows contact is said to be concerning. I don't trust the Cubs minor league staff to fix that. He is an athlete where Frazier is a ball player. He also pimps the fuck out of his hrs.

The thing that scares me about Appel or Gray is that you almost have to bank on their elbow blowing sooner than later.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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Frazier has the Matt Murton look down.
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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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I think Frazier has more swing and miss potential than Meadows. Meadows also has a much better chance to stay in centerfield where Frazier will likely end up at a corner.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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Meadows scares me in that he reminds me of Brett Jackson. I just watched some video of their hitting and Frazier has a hammer of a bat despite being quite a bit smaller than Meadows.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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I don't know how you can compare Meadows to Brett Jackson. Meadows blows Jackson out of the water at this stage of their development. Meadows is being considered as a top 5 pick while Jackson wasn't even drafted out of high school.

Frazier definitely has the best bat speed in the draft.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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I don't know how you can compare Meadows to Brett Jackson. Meadows blows Jackson out of the water at this stage of their development. Meadows is being considered as a top 5 pick while Jackson wasn't even drafted out of high school.

Frazier definitely has the best bat speed in the draft.


What they want Jackson to be seems to be what Meadows projects as. I'm not comparing their development but what the hopeful end result would be. I am just scared off by the toolsy athlete label. I like the straight up ball player aspect of Frazier.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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LHP Sean Manea was sitting 84-86 during his start on Saturday

HS OF Ryan Boldt's knee injury is not serious

HS RHP Kyle Serrano (son of Tenn HC Dave Serrano) was sitting 93-95 in his last start

Kris Bryant hit his 23rd home run of the season

HS LHP Trey Ball topped out at 94 during his last start


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:48 pm 
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1. Houston: Mark Appel RHP Stanford
2. Chicago NL: Johnathan Gray RHP Oklahoma
3. Colorado: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego
4. Minnesota: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS
5. Cleveland: Colin Moran 3B North Carolina
6. Miami: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS
7. Boston : Braden Shipley RHP Nevada
8. Kansas City: DJ Peterson 3B New Mexico
9. Pittsburgh: Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS
10. Toronto: Reese McGuire C Kentwood HS
11. New York NL: Hunter Renfoe OF Miss St
12. Seattle: Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas
13. San Diego: JP Crawford SS Lakewood HS
14. Pittsburgh: Austin Wilson OF Stanford
15. Arizona: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St
16. Philadelphia: Dominic Smith OF Sierra HS
17. Chicago AL: Chris Anderson RHP Jacksonville
18. Los Angeles NL:Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS
19. St Louis: Marco Gonzalez LHP Gonzaga
20. Detroit: Aaron Judge OF Fresno St
21. Tampa Bay: Johnathan Denny C Yukon HS
22. Baltimore: Hunter Harvey RHP Bandy's HS
23. Texas: Nick Ciuffo C Lexington HS
24. Oakland: Ryan Eades RHP LSU
25. San Francisco: Ian Clarkin LHP James Madison HS
26. New York AL: Rob Kaminsky LHP St Joseph HS
27. Cinncinati: Kevin Ziomek LHP Vanderbilt
28. St Louis: Tim Anderson SS East Central JC
29. Tampa Bay: Alex Gonzalez RHP Oral Roberts
30. Texas: Billy McKinney OF Plano West HS
31. Atlanta: Travis Demeritte 3B Winder Barrow HS
32. New York AL: Aaron Blair RHP Marshall
33. New York AL: Ryan Boldt OF Red Wing HS


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:42 pm 
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Mark Appel and Johnathan Gray both had lackluster starts this weekend

Sean Manea's velocity was back up to 90-92

Ryan Boldt's knee injury was worse than origanally reported as he has arthroscopic knee surgery and will not play again before the draft

Kris Bryant hit his 28th home run of the season

Clint Frazier hit his 16th home run of the season


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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edit: Kris Bryant hit his 29th home run of the season. I'm really starting to think the Cubs may draft this Kid.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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5 of the Cardinals current top 10 prospects are pitchers (well, 4 now that Shelby Miller's in the majors).

I doubt they take a college junior pitching prospect in the first round. Too much of a log jam of arms ready for the majors. If they go pitcher, and they probably will, they'll go HS.

Doesn't Dombrowski always draft pitchers first round? Could see the Tigers taking Gonzales if the Cardinals don't.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:49 pm 
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In the first round they should take the best player available and Marco Gonzalez is pretty darn good. I'd be happy if the Sox popped him at 17.

The Tigers haven't had a first round pick since 2009 so the book is out the window on what Dombrowski might do. He'll probably go with the highest ceiling guy because that farm system sucks and they need high ceiling talent in a bad way.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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Keyser Soze wrote:
In the first round they should take the best player available and Marco Gonzalez is pretty darn good. I'd be happy if the Sox popped him at 17.
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That's true, plus arms are always good trade chips and you can never be too rich/thin or have too much pitching. Except the freaking Rays. Tampa had like 8 picks in the first 2 rounds a couple drafts ago, back when teams still got compensatory picks for losing guys to free agency.

Sox and Tigers both need farm system replenishment--difference being Dombrowski emptied out his farm system in an effort to win a World Series and they likely will be back in the hunt again for another chance to get swept by the NL in the Fall classic.

Not sure what Kenny's excuse is for the Sox moribund farm system. Maybe not drafting Ozzie's kids high enough?


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:14 pm 
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1. Houston: Johnathan Gray RHP Oklahoma
2. Chicago NL: Mark Appel RHP Stanford
3. Colorado: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego
4. Minnesota: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS
5. Cleveland: Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS
6. Miami: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS
7. Boston : Braden Shipley RHP Nevada
8. Kansas City: Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS
9. Pittsburgh: Colin Moran 3B North Carolina
10. Toronto: Reese McGuire C Kentwood HS
11. New York NL: DJ Peterson 3B New Mexico
12. Seattle: Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas
13. San Diego: JP Crawford SS Lakewood HS
14. Pittsburgh: Phil Bickford RHP Oaks Christian HS
15. Arizona: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St
16. Philadelphia: Austin Wilson OF Stanford
17. Chicago AL: Hunter Renfoe OF Miss St
18. Los Angeles NL:Dominic Smith OF Serra HS
19. St Louis: Marco Gonzalez LHP Gonzaga
20. Detroit: Aaron Judge OF Fresno St
21. Tampa Bay: Hunter Harvey RHP Bandy's HS
22. Baltimore: Chris Anderson RHP Jacksonville
23. Texas: Billy McKinney OF Plano West HS
24. Oakland: Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame
25. San Francisco: Ian Clarkin LHP James Madison HS
26. New York AL: Rob Kaminsky LHP St Joseph HS
27. Cinncinati: Nick Ciuffo C Lexington HS
28. St Louis: Phillip Ervin OF Samford
29. Tampa Bay: Alex Gonzalez RHP Oral Roberts
30. Texas: Johnathan Denny C Yukon HS
31. Atlanta: Travis Demeritte 3B Winder Barrow HS
32. New York AL: Johnathan CrawfordRHP Florida
33. New York AL: Tim Anderson SS East Central JC


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:54 am 
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LHP Sean Manea missed his last start due to stiffness in his shoulder and an achy hip and is his stock droppping like a stone

RHP Chris Anderson's (Jacksonville Univ) stock is also dropping due to a heavy workload and a drop in velocity

RHP Alex Balog (San Francisco Univ) is flying up draft boards as his velocity is going up

There are rumors the Astros are considering 3B Colin Moran and OF Austin Meadows for 1-1

There are also rumors the Twins are very high on HS C Reese McGuire at 1-4


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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Keyser you got the first pick in the draft, who you taking?

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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1. Houston: Johnathan Gray RHP Oklahoma
2. Chicago NL: Mark Appel RHP Stanford
3. Colorado: Kris Bryant 3B San Diego
4. Minnesota: Braden Shipley RHP Nevada
5. Cleveland: Colin Moran 3B North Carolina
6. Miami: Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS
7. Boston: Kohl Stewart RHP St Pius HS
8. Kansas City: Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS
9. Pittsburgh: Reese McGuire C Kentwood HS
10. Toronto: Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS
11. New York NL: DJ Peterson 3B New Mexico
12. Seattle: Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas
13. San Diego: JP Crawford SS Lakewood HS
14. Pittsburgh: Hunter Renfoe OF Miss St
15. Arizona: Phil Bickford RHP Oaks Christian HS
16. Philadelphia: Phillip Ervin OF Samford
17. Chicago AL: Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame
18. Los Angeles NL: Dominic Smith OF Serra HS
19. St Louis: Marco Gonzalez LHP Gonzaga
20. Detroit: Aaron Judge OF Fresno St
21. Tampa Bay: Hunter Harvey RHP Bandy's HS
22. Baltimore: Alex Balog RHP San Francisco
23. Texas: Billy McKinney OF Plano West HS
24. Oakland: Austin Wilson OF Stanford
25. San Francisco: Ian Clarkin LHP James Madison HS
26. New York AL: Rob Kaminsky LHP St Joseph HS
27. Cinncinati: Alex Gonzalez RHP Oral Roberts
28. St Louis: Tim Anderson SS East Central JC
29. Tampa Bay: Nick Ciuffo C Lexington HS
30. Texas: Johnathan Denny C Yukon HS
31. Atlanta: Travis Demeritte 3B Winder Barrow HS
32. New York AL: Sean Manea LHP Indiana St
33. New York AL: Johnathan Crawford RHP Florida


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:42 pm 
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Why is my guy Frazier continuing to drop?

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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He could go to Boston at 7. It really depends if Minnesota takes Kohl Stewart at 4 or if they go with a safer sign like Shipley


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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I've been looking at some guys from the mocks who come up at 1-19, you have any thoughts on these guys Keyser?

Phillip Erwin - OF - Samford University
Alex Gonzalez - RHP - Oral Roberts
Jonathon Crawford - RHP - Florida
Chris Anderson - RHP - Jacksonville
Marco Gonzales - LHP - Gonzaga
Bobby Wahl - RHP - Mississippi

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Erwin- good combination of speed and power. Good athlete. Projects as an above average right fielder.

Alex Gonzalez- sinker/slider guy with a decent change. Projects as a middle of the rotation starter

Johnathan Crawford- power fastball power slider but he's a wrapper. Don't like him.

Chris Anderson- power pitcher started out great but has faded due to a heavy workload. He would have to be brought along slowly

Marco Gonzalez- very polished lefty with excellent command of all 3 pitches. Doesn't have a high ceiling but has a very high floor. I really like this guy.

Bobby Wahl- Big fastball and slider but not much else. Projects as a reliever.


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 MLB Draft
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Nice.. I think i'll go with your earlier thoughts and hope for Gonzales.. seems like he could be a guy in the mold of the now-broken Jaime Garcia

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I just saw a mock that had the Cards taking 3B Eric Jagielo at 19 and OF Aaron Judge at 28. I'm hoping Jagielo is taken a couple picks ahead of 19.


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A friend of a co worker is a scout for the cubs...I'm told

Anyway saying they are really high on Kris Bryant and Joe Maddon will be managing the Cubs next


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A friend of a co worker is a scout for the cubs...I'm told

Anyway saying they are really high on Kris Bryant and Joe Maddon will be managing the Cubs next

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