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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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Starting to fade on this.

Yeah, same here.

I would have at least made him dress last night. Just use him as a decoy to get in the Nets' head. Bring him out David Lee style for a quick 1-2 minute rotation just to get the crowd amped up. He could at least taken the 5 minutes they played Teague last night, and he would have been a hero.


Yep, last night was the night and he declined. And he has already declared himself out for game 7.

It's hard to believe he (and his people) are this stupid allowing his image nationally to be trashed, but that is exactly what has happened.

But hey, he has guaranteed millions so he doesn't give a shit. He feels if he can't play 40+ minutes right away, why should he play 15-20 minutes?

It's obvious it's all about D Rose. Fuck his teammates, fuck the organization and fuck the fans.

He is going to have to deliver an NBA title to regain what he has lost these last few weeks.

Stupid.

And shameful.


Had he played 15-20 minutes , he could have been the difference and helped the Bulls win the series. That would have gone a long way in repairing some of the damage his rep has sustained. If he doesn't play in game 7 and the Nets win, the damage will be even worse. How his advisors could tell him that sitting out was the best idea is a mystery. It's been pretty much a full year since surgery and he was cleared over 2 months ago. How can he even look his teammates in the eye?

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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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If this is the first time this has been posted, I will say:

1. We need a new Year End Category called "GIF Post of the Year"

2. Nominate this post.


This doesn't look like any GIF I've ever seen.

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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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Muscle memory. It's fantastic.


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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As has been pointed out in this thread, I think the only logical conclusion is that Rose is afraid of the Heat in general and of LeBron specifically and therefore he subconsciously does not want his team to advance.

Two years ago in the playoffs, Lebron shut Rose down in the 4th quarter and Rose clearly is not up to the challenge mentally, so he hides behind "muscle memory" and all this other bullshit.

And all of his people are nothing more than sheep and enable him by telling him what he wants to hear, etc. and Rose just hides in the corner like a scared child, shunning the media, and plays like "the man" in practice knowing no one will dare touch him there.

Meanwhile, his teammates are laying it all on the line doing whatever they can do to advance while "D Rose" kicks back secure in the tens of millions of guaranteed dollars he will receive contractually.

The man has become a very rich, self-absorbed, spoiled and pampered head case.


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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As has been pointed out in this thread, I think the only logical conclusion is that Rose is afraid of the Heat in general and of LeBron specifically and therefore he subconsciously does not want his team to advance.

Two years ago in the playoffs, Lebron shut Rose down in the 4th quarter and Rose clearly is not up to the challenge mentally, so he hides behind "muscle memory" and all this other bullshit.

And all of his people are nothing more than sheep and enable him by telling him what he wants to hear, etc. and Rose just hides in the corner like a scared child, shunning the media, and plays like "the man" in practice knowing no one will dare touch him there.

Meanwhile, his teammates are laying it all on the line doing whatever they can do to advance while "D Rose" kicks back secure in the tens of millions of guaranteed dollars he will receive contractually.

The man has become a very rich, self-absorbed, spoiled and pampered head case.


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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As has been pointed out in this thread, I think the only logical conclusion is that Rose is afraid of the Heat in general and of LeBron specifically and therefore he subconsciously does not want his team to advance.

Two years ago in the playoffs, Lebron shut Rose down in the 4th quarter and Rose clearly is not up to the challenge mentally, so he hides behind "muscle memory" and all this other bullshit.

And all of his people are nothing more than sheep and enable him by telling him what he wants to hear, etc. and Rose just hides in the corner like a scared child, shunning the media, and plays like "the man" in practice knowing no one will dare touch him there.

Meanwhile, his teammates are laying it all on the line doing whatever they can do to advance while "D Rose" kicks back secure in the tens of millions of guaranteed dollars he will receive contractually.

The man has become a very rich, self-absorbed, spoiled and pampered head case.


No.


And your explanation is??


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And your explanation is??


The "only logical explanation" is that Rose is scared of Miami? You really believe that?


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
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And your explanation is??


The "only logical explanation" is that Rose is scared of Miami? You really believe that?


Poor use of an absolute admittedly, but given how his brother doesn't think the Bulls can compete against Miami, it is logical to assume he is telling his brother not to risk getting clobbered by the Heat in the playoffs and risking his "image".

If true, this clearly is terrible advice given what is transpiring now.

And again, what is your explanation for why he refuses to play when he has been medically cleared for weeks, is doing very well in practice and his team desperately needs him even if in limited stretches?


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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Poor use of an absolute admittedly, but given how his brother doesn't think the Bulls can compete against Miami, it is logical to assume he is telling his brother not to risk getting clobbered by the Heat in the playoffs and risking his "image".

If true, this clearly is terrible advice given what is transpiring now.

And again, what is your explanation for why he refuses to play when he has been medically cleared for weeks, is doing very well in practice and his team desperately needs him even if in limited stretches?


This is a completely different explanation than what you eluded to previously. Which is probably why I agree with it.

I agree that Rose is getting horrible advice that is contributing to his not playing. It has nothing to do with big scary LeBron.


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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I do think it has something to do with LeBron. Given the way he (LeBron) has shut down a healthy Rose in the past in crunch time, Rose (and his people) may in fact feel they don't want to face LeBron until Rose is ready to go 40 minutes a game again.

And obviously at this point in the season, that ain't gonna be happening, so he chooses to sit and watch and bet that the fans will flock back to him next season. But in the mean time, his reputation goes right down the toilet as his teammates battle with everything they have and he plays the mute cheerleader.

And if Miami just happens to suffer an injury of their own, like Wade for example, then Rose will look that much worse for not helping the Bulls reach the East Finals and then possibly to the Finals against a weakened Western Conference after the Westbrook injury.


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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Barkley and Shaq calling Rose out in pregame for not playing tonight.

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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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but he gets absolutely no quarter from criticism should he dog it in the future. This has permanently damaged his credibility. I don't believe for a second that his teammates aren't questioning it in private.



Was out last night with a guy who has had another Bulls player for client for a number of years now.

Says that the other teamates don't really give a shit. That it;s each man for himself in the NBA.

He said the issue is that Rose has a mental block and is terrified about being injured again.

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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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Talked to a guy I know today that knows about sports insurance policy. If Rose does not play a minute this season he said the Bulls owe him nothing. The policy on him will pay the team and then they pay him. Sounds like a good deal for the Bulls. I had never thought about that angle before talking to my friend but it makes sense from a buisiness point of view.


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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after my sixers smoked your team last year without rose, i really was impressed they beat the brooklyn nets. well, the sky's the limit now!


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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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All will be forgotten when he gets back on the court. We may not think so now, but it will...


but he gets absolutely no quarter from criticism should he dog it in the future. This has permanently damaged his credibility. I don't believe for a second that his teammates aren't questioning it in private.



Was out last night with a guy who has had another Bulls player for client for a number of years now.

Says that the other teamates don't really give a shit. That it;s each man for himself in the NBA.

He said the issue is that Rose has a mental block and is terrified about being injured again.


I don't believe for a second that Roses teammates don't care about Rose not playing. That just isn't how team dynamics work. A Pussy like Rose can lose the respect of his teammates in a hurry.

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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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The fact that him not playing is even debatable is why I hate this sport. Its not even a fucking question in any other sport.

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The fact that him not playing is even debatable is why I hate this sport. Its not even a fucking question in any other sport.


Thats because he just wont say "I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY", so he leaves the speculation wide open and deserves all the shit he gets for it.

Here is an idea. Maybe not have your thug brother be your mouthpiece. Grow up!

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 Post subject: Re: Derek Rose
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The Rose camp are a bunch of damn fools. If Rose is this mentally afraid of hurting himself he should have declared he was out for season or the playoffs a couple weeks ago. This leaving the door open bullshit and not playing but jumping around like a damn fool just doesn't project a very good image. Even if you are Rose's side on this, you really can't deny that. Regardless of Rose's weak, fragile mental state this bad PR is all his fault by keeping this door open when he clearly knows he's a pussy. I've held out longer than most on questioning Rose, but this whole door open thing is a joke and at this point harms everyone involved. Anyone who thinks that the players aren't at least questioning Rose in private or in their minds is just fooling themselves.


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The fact that him not playing is even debatable is why I hate this sport.


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The Rose camp are a bunch of damn fools. If Rose is this mentally afraid of hurting himself he should have declared he was out for season or the playoffs a couple weeks ago. This leaving the door open bullshit and not playing but jumping around like a damn fool just doesn't project a very good image. Even if you are Rose's side on this, you really can't deny that. Regardless of Rose's weak, fragile mental state this bad PR is all his fault by keeping this door open when he clearly knows he's a pussy. I've held out longer than most on questioning Rose, but this whole door open thing is a joke and at this point harms everyone involved. Anyone who thinks that the players aren't at least questioning Rose in private or in their minds is just fooling themselves.


If he knew he wasn't gonna come back, he should've just told everyone he had a setback and it would be impossible for him to come back this year.

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The Rose camp are a bunch of damn fools. If Rose is this mentally afraid of hurting himself he should have declared he was out for season or the playoffs a couple weeks ago. This leaving the door open bullshit and not playing but jumping around like a damn fool just doesn't project a very good image. Even if you are Rose's side on this, you really can't deny that. Regardless of Rose's weak, fragile mental state this bad PR is all his fault by keeping this door open when he clearly knows he's a pussy. I've held out longer than most on questioning Rose, but this whole door open thing is a joke and at this point harms everyone involved. Anyone who thinks that the players aren't at least questioning Rose in private or in their minds is just fooling themselves.


If he knew he wasn't gonna come back, he should've just told everyone he had a setback and it would be impossible for him to come back this year.


And he would have never been questioned.


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Exactly.

All the bad feelings from the past 3 months go away.

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He should get the guy who took his sat to take his muscle memory exam

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The fact that him not playing is even debatable is why I hate this sport. Its not even a fucking question in any other sport.


Thats because he just wont say "I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY", so he leaves the speculation wide open and deserves all the shit he gets for it.

Here is an idea. Maybe not have your thug brother be your mouthpiece. Grow up!


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He should get the guy who took his sat to take his muscle memory exam


:lol:

Spoken like an Ignatius grad.

That was the topic on Friday though. This guy said he is most freaked out about the fact that he tore the ACL on a move that he had literally made thousands of times.

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If the Bulls won game two, he'd have played in game 3*.



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