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Hatchetman

Post subject: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:18 pm

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post 1930, pre steroid era

Vaughan
Appling
Boudreau
Ripken
Jeter* (i dunno, maybe he's roided up)
Banks
Smith
Larkin
Cronin
Pesky
Trammell

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:20 pm

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Luke Appling needs to be on there in the top 4.

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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:20 pm

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:22 pm

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No, that would be more like "what is your favorite infield position"

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:22 pm

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:23 pm

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stoneroses86 wrote:

"Holy Cow! You left me off the list!"

He probably corked his bat, too.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:24 pm

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Adam Dunn had more homeruns last year than Rizzuto did in his entire career.

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:29 pm

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Rizzuto isnt a word, he's a baseball player!!!

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:31 pm

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Appling added to list. He played later than I thought.

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Apologist

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:37 pm

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The post-1930 stipulation probably excludes the greatest shortstop of all time.

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:43 pm

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yeah, it's tough. I am biased and think old timers were good, but you have to admit, it was a different game in the teens and 20s. Hornsby was probably the best.

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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:44 pm

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I can't really comment on this, without basically... relying on the gospel [read: opinion] of old fogies and Bill Jamesian computer formulas.

So.. top 10 SS that I have seen play:

No particular order:

Ripken
Smith
Fernandez
Yount
Vizquel
Jeter [meh]
Larkin
Trammell
Tulowitzki
Renteria

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:45 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

yeah, it's tough. I am biased and think old timers were good, but you have to admit, it was a different game in the teens and 20s. Hornsby was probably the best.

Wagner. Hornsby was a 2b/1b

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:46 pm

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A Rod in Seattle is the greatest of all time

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Apologist

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:47 pm

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I didn't include him because i don't consider him a SS

Nomar for similar reasons

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:51 pm

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Apologist wrote:

relying on the gospel [read: opinion] of old fogies and Bill Jamesian computer formulas.

That's what makes it fun!

Best I ever saw, day in day out, in order:
Larkin
Smith
Yount
Ripken
Trammell

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:51 pm

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Apologist wrote:

Wagner. Hornsby was a 2b/1b

sorry. meant to say wagner.

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:53 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Adam Dunn had more homeruns last year than Rizzuto did in his entire career.

What does this irrelevant argument have to do with anything? Is Adam Dunn a shortstop?

Plus, I would love to see Adam Dunn come face to face with a Nazi in the heat of battle. That bravery equals something like a thousand home runs.

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Apologist

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:17 pm

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What, only SS and 1B?

This is like the Ernie Banks of lists :oops:

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:37 pm

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JORR suggested SS was a more "important" position than 1B. Got me to thinking. I'll get around to the others. 2B is loaded. Maybe better than SS.

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Apologist

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:51 pm

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I think we could/should break down the OF by position.. LF CF RF

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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:19 pm

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:38 am

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Jeter
Smith
Yount
Appling
Boudreau
A-Rod
Tulowitski
Banks
Larkin

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Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:47 pm

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Keeping Score wrote:

Robin Yount should win both best SS and best CF of all time.

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Rod

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:18 pm

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Aparicio belongs on there. He's very similar to Smith and Vizquel.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:30 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Aparicio belongs on there. He's very similar to Smith and Vizquel.

Leave room for Castro eventually. He's on a hall of fame pace!

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Rod

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:28 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Aparicio belongs on there. He's very similar to Smith and Vizquel.

Leave room for Castro eventually. He's on a hall of fame pace!

So was Strasburg.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: top 10 SS of all time

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:58 am

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Aparicio belongs on there. He's very similar to Smith and Vizquel.

Leave room for Castro eventually. He's on a hall of fame pace!

So was Strasburg.

For less than a season.

Castro has done it over 4 years. 500 hits before his 23rd birthday! Not bad

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