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 Post subject: Re: Cousins
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:17 pm 
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Dwight would be stupid to pick LA over Houston.


He would IF he was 2011 Dwight or early. He'll never be that. Taking the money is the way to go. The Lakers shouldn't offer him a 5th year. That's stupid.

It is what it is. If he wants the 5th year and a sign and trade to Houston for Asik and some other parts, the Lakers will do it. They can't afford to lose him for nothing unless their plan is to amnesty Kobe and start over completely.

I forgot which show it was I was listening to today but someone, maybe M&H, said that Howard would pick Chicago over both of them to play with Rose and Noah. I considered suicide for a fleeting moment when I heard that.


I would join you. I wouldn't want to see Howard in a Bulls jersey.

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 Post subject: Re: Cousins
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I thought they stopped sign and trades or restricted them with the new CBA. Did I get that wrong?

I thought it was still an option. Thought I heard Marc Stein mention it as a possibility. I have no idea to be honest.

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I forgot which show it was I was listening to today but someone, maybe M&H, said that Howard would pick Chicago over both of them to play with Rose and Noah. I considered suicide for a fleeting moment when I heard that.


That was the same logic most everyone wanted LeBron and/or Wade to use in 2010. Didn't work then, won't work now. I know FF doesn't care about free agency at the moment, but I think it sucks that no big ticket free agent (not necessarily Howard) wants to come here.

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 Post subject: Re: Cousins
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I just think the FA thing is vastly overstated. The Bulls never legitimately had a shot in 2010 so I don't count that. In 2000 everyone still disliked Krause because of the end of the dynasty and there was an air of distrust around the Bulls that I don't think is still there. I find it hard to believe that there are more than a handful of teams more appealing than the Bulls.

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 Post subject: Re: Cousins
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I just think the FA thing is vastly overstated. The Bulls never legitimately had a shot in 2010 so I don't count that. In 2000 everyone still disliked Krause because of the end of the dynasty and there was an air of distrust around the Bulls that I don't think is still there. I find it hard to believe that there are more than a handful of teams more appealing than the Bulls.


We've already discussed free agency in general, so I won't ask my question within that context. But why do you think they did not have a shot in 2010? They had a young core and plenty of cap space. You know that Paxson deliberately set himself up for the LBJ/Wade/Bosh sweepstakes by dealing Hinrich and others to clear cap space. They were one of five teams to get some time with LeBron. They clearly wanted one or two of those guys and they failed. So why don't you count that?

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Because I think after the Olympics in 2008 Wade, LeBron, and Bosh decided they were going to play together. I don't think any of them went into the summer of 2010 undecided.

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Because I think after the Olympics in 2008 Wade, LeBron, and Bosh decided they were going to play together. I don't think any of them went into the summer of 2010 undecided.

Word. That whole thing was just a farce. Interviewing with the Bulls was a ruse to drive up price via perceived demand.

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Because I think after the Olympics in 2008 Wade, LeBron, and Bosh decided they were going to play together. I don't think any of them went into the summer of 2010 undecided.

Word. That whole thing was just a farce. Interviewing with the Bulls was a ruse to drive up price via perceived demand.


I do remember reading something about collusion on Yahoo or something. But even if that were true, they all were going to get full boat, max offers from every team anyway. In fact they accepted less by signing with Miami, which is why Joe Johnson had the fattest contract in the league after free agency wrapped up. Did you all read anything about intel gathering? That's what I remember hearing on the radio when everyone was trying to speculate on the big three's motivations and strategy.

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 Post subject: Re: Cousins
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Because I think after the Olympics in 2008 Wade, LeBron, and Bosh decided they were going to play together. I don't think any of them went into the summer of 2010 undecided.

Word. That whole thing was just a farce. Interviewing with the Bulls was a ruse to drive up price via perceived demand.


I do remember reading something about collusion on Yahoo or something. But even if that were true, they all were going to get full boat, max offers from every team anyway. In fact they accepted less by signing with Miami, which is why Joe Johnson had the fattest contract in the league after free agency wrapped up. Did you all read anything about intel gathering? That's what I remember hearing on the radio when everyone was trying to speculate on the big three's motivations and strategy.

No no, this is all baseless rumor and factless speculation.
just the way i like it.

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Absolutely you make that move, Noah is very replaceable.

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