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Sorry KS, but wouldn't you classify the Bucks job right now as a dead end position? They're just decent enough to escape the lottery, but not nearly good enough to make some noise in the playoffs. On top of that, they're not an attractive FA destination even if they had the space. They seem to be locked in to draft picks in the teens and .500 records for at least the next 3-4 years, unless the bottom drops out and they score a top three pick or something. I just see either very mediocre or very bad in their short-term future.



In actuality, Larry Drew is probably a pretty good get, all things considered.


What's up with Jennings? What are your thoughts on whether they should keep him or not. I don't remember if he's a UFA or restricted.

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Is the Bucks job still available? I'd like to see him go back there if so.

:lol:

I hadn't been keeping up. Didn't know they hired someone.

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Is the Bucks job still available? I'd like to see him go back there if so.

:lol:

I hadn't been keeping up. Didn't know they hired someone.

ah, I thought you were just poking KS a little.

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The Clippers job would be great. That's his type of team. Great playmaking point guard with high-flying athletic front court players.

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The Clippers are flashy but Griffin and Jordan need some serious work. I'm not sure what Griffin's game is yet, and I think it's safe to say Jordan doesn't have a game at all. I think there was some stat less than a year ago that indicated Jordan had only made something like less than five shots outside the paint for his career.

Paul has cause to leave if he thinks Griffin won't get serious about becoming a more dynamic player.

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The clippers and Karl would be dangerous.

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The clippers and Karl would be dangerous.


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@WojYahooNBA Y! Sources: Jason Kidd is pursuing the Brooklyn Nets head coaching job.

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Already a better coach than Larry Drew

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@WojYahooNBA Y! Sources: Jason Kidd is pursuing the Brooklyn Nets head coaching job.

:shock:

I'd give him a shot before I considered many of the retread options on the market right now.

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So Lionel Hollins is out as Memphis Grizzlies' HC despite guiding the franchise to their first trip to the West Finals. Might he replace the John Lithgow-looking George Karl in Denver?


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ESPN sources: Mo Cheeks has today agreed to take Detroit Pistons' job. Story posting online at ESPN as we speak


The Pistons became irrelevant very quickly. Joe Dumars was the richest GM in the world back in 2003 when he had a contending team and the second pick in a LOADED draft. After letting his championship core age and move on with nothing in return, I'm wondering if he should still be able to keep his job. He's got some second year center, whose name I'm too lazy to look up right now, and that's the only thing going for him I believe. Also, he totally whiffed when he signed Gordon and Villanueva about four years ago.

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You talking Greg Monroe?

I also LOVE the upside of Andre Drummond, while being extremely wary of him at the same time. I believe he is the wild card on that team for years to come.

Dumars has fallen a long ways.

He would've been better off drafting our Darko. :lol:


Oops, I was thinking of Drummond but forgot about Monroe. So I guess he's got two prospects. But I'm still not liking his post-Hamilton/Billups/Wallace/Prince performance.

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Kidd will be the next Nets coach and he's still a better PG than Deron

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Nas wrote:
Kidd will be the next Nets coach and he's still a better PG than Deron

Player/Coach?

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Kidd will be the next Nets coach and he's still a better PG than Deron

Player/Coach?


That could happen.

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Bad advice or is he crazy?

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Bad advice or is he crazy?

He wants to get one more nice multi year deal before he breaks down. He's 29, so a nice 4 year - $12 million/yr deal is better than 1 year - $15 million.

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Also, perhaps a chance to play for a contender for the first time in his career. You can dismiss this though if he signs with a team like Charlotte or Milwaukee. I remember wanting Iggy over Deng in 2004 or 2005, whenever they were drafted. In retrospect they've both had solid careers, and I'm not sure which one I'd want now. Iggy isn't the shooter that Deng is, but Deng isn't the slasher like Igoudala is. Kinda prefer the latter now that I think about it...

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Clippers are offering Jordan and 2 #1 picks for KG and Doc. That seems like a high price for a coach and a finished KG.

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Clippers are offering Jordan and 2 #1 picks for KG and Doc. That seems like a high price for a coach and a finished KG.


Jordan sucks. I bet hes made no more than ten field goals outside the paint for his career.

I look at this as LA dumping salary in exchange for a high profile coach. Keeping Paul and continuing the playoff streak will reduce the sting of losing two picks, which will be mid to late twenties if everything works out. KG is a bonus for the year or two he's got left. He's also expiring money soon.

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Clippers are offering Jordan and 2 #1 picks for KG and Doc. That seems like a high price for a coach and a finished KG.


Boston should jump all over that.

Donald Sterling strikes again.

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Also, perhaps a chance to play for a contender for the first time in his career. You can dismiss this though if he signs with a team like Charlotte or Milwaukee. I remember wanting Iggy over Deng in 2004 or 2005, whenever they were drafted. In retrospect they've both had solid careers, and I'm not sure which one I'd want now. Iggy isn't the shooter that Deng is, but Deng isn't the slasher like Igoudala is. Kinda prefer the latter now that I think about it...

Iguodala has been a better player so far, but there's no question I'd rather have Deng going forward. Iggy's game is centered around his athleticism, just like Gerald Wallace. And I expect him to show a decline similar to Wallace's.

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WTF is with CP3 wanting to team up with Dwight? What is he thinking??


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Iguodala (it sounds like Iguana and Koala put together) is a superior player than Deng in terms of dunking ability and speed. Looking at the stats they are very similar players. I would pick Deng because I think he is a better defender and he plays more minutes. Iguodala has stretches where he can't make a shot and then he can get hot all of a sudden. He was supposed to be one of the stars of the Nuggets to get them out of the first round, but they still lost.

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Iguodala (it sounds like Iguana and Koala put together)...


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Shame on ESPN for just reporting rumors on all this stuff and hyping it up like it's news and the deal is done. Rumors are interesting, but at a certain point isn't it better to just report the facts and leave rumors to the message boards?

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Clippers are offering Jordan and 2 #1 picks for KG and Doc. That seems like a high price for a coach and a finished KG.


Boston should jump all over that.

Donald Sterling strikes again.

I think it's a bad deal for Boston. I don't really see the upside. Jordan has 2-3 years left on his deal at $10+ million a year. That's bad money. So you're giving up one of the best coaches in the league and the best player in the deal(albeit like a 37 year old one) to take back a bad contract and all you get is two late first round picks? Sounds like a bad deal.

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Clippers are offering Jordan and 2 #1 picks for KG and Doc. That seems like a high price for a coach and a finished KG.


Boston should jump all over that.

Donald Sterling strikes again.

I think it's a bad deal for Boston. I don't really see the upside. Jordan has 2-3 years left on his deal at $10+ million a year. That's bad money. So you're giving up one of the best coaches in the league and the best player in the deal(albeit like a 37 year old one) to take back a bad contract and all you get is two late first round picks? Sounds like a bad deal.


I'm comfortable in thinking the Clippers will return to being the Clippers and Boston would have 2 lottery picks.

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Clippers are offering Jordan and 2 #1 picks for KG and Doc. That seems like a high price for a coach and a finished KG.


Boston should jump all over that.

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I think it's a bad deal for Boston. I don't really see the upside. Jordan has 2-3 years left on his deal at $10+ million a year. That's bad money. So you're giving up one of the best coaches in the league and the best player in the deal(albeit like a 37 year old one) to take back a bad contract and all you get is two late first round picks? Sounds like a bad deal.


I'm comfortable in thinking the Clippers will return to being the Clippers and Boston would have 2 lottery picks.


They've been a playoff team for two years straight with Paul, and if they acquire Rivers, KG and retain Paul, I don't see the playoff streak ending...especially with Rivers as coach. Two picks is steep, but those picks will at best yield two decent supporting cast players, if Boston drafts well. The added bonus is shedding Jordan's salary from the payroll, and Jordan is one of two guys that Paul allegedly had beef with for being too goofy (the other one was Griffin).

I don't agree with FF though when he says KG is the best player in the deal - I don't think there is a best player in the deal per se. The primary reason you do this trade if you're LA is signing Rivers, who along with being as good if not better than the available coaches on the market, could also entice Paul to resign with LA. KG at most can serve in a sort of player-coach capacity, and may be able to teach Griffin a thing or two about developing a more diverse game.

I also think the deal is a win for Boston because, normally, you'd get nothing in return if your coach wanted to leave when his contract was up. And you typically don't get much in return for 37 year old players, even if they were once superstars. So for a coach who wants to go and an old player, you get two picks and an overpaid, but still youngish prospect. To me that's better than nothing. They're going to rebuild anyway so Jordan's salary will not be much of a burden since I assume the payroll will be low. At best he becomes an expiring contract if you can use in a trade down the road if he doesn't develop.

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So...it looks like you get Paul's signature on an extension and Rivers in exchange for what will now most likely be a draft pick in the 20s. Sounds good to me.

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