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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:33 am 
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Trestman will be calling the plays directly to Cutler.

None of this Trestman to Cavanugh to Cutler crap.

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Waaaaah! I want Lovie back. He won 29 games the last three years!!!

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bigfan wrote:
Trestman will be calling the plays directly to Cutler.

None of this Trestman to Cavanugh to Cutler crap.

Does it matter if Cutler doesn't understand what he's saying?


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I was reading my Bears media guide sent to me as a season ticket holder and I noticed the Trestman has a stellar resume up to the point of taking and staying in a CFL job. I don't think it is a matter of him being able to be successful. He has proven that he can. It is just a matter of weather the league passed him by in his years away.

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It is just a matter of weather the league passed him by in his years away.


Does he seem like the kind of guy who studied everything the great offenses in the NFL were doing during that time?

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Hatchetman wrote:
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It is just a matter of weather the league passed him by in his years away.


Does he seem like the kind of guy who studied everything the great offenses in the NFL were doing during that time?


Honestly, yes. At the very minimum, I bet he studied the hell out of last season.


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The guy is intellectual and pragmatic. I don't think him being away will be a problem. Hell adjust and adapt based on what he sees on the field. It'd be an issue if the guy the Bears hired was rigid, narrow minded, and married to a "system" to such a degree that he's incapable of thinking outside of it. I don't think we have that problem here.

If anything, Trestman will fail if he can't get guys to buy in, or, like Smith, he can't produce consistently good results on both sides of the ball.

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Tresty is in a hard spot b/c the defense is not going to win the turnover lottery like they did last year. That will be his fault.

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Tresty is in a hard spot b/c the defense is not going to win the turnover lottery like they did last year. That will be his fault.


If the defense regresses as much as the offense improves, they will be fine.


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The guy is intellectual and pragmatic. I don't think him being away will be a problem. Hell adjust and adapt based on what he sees on the field. It'd be an issue if the guy the Bears hired was rigid, narrow minded, and married to a "system" to such a degree that he's incapable of thinking outside of it. I don't think we have that problem here.

If anything, Trestman will fail if he can't get guys to buy in, or, like Smith, he can't produce consistently good results on both sides of the ball.


The whole notion of him being gone and thus clueless is blown out of proportion. If he tries to pull in some CFL crap that clearly won't work... he'll have a QB, a WR, multiple position coaches and an offensive coordinator to tell him it won't work. Checks and balances are in place.


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Hatchetman wrote:
Tresty is in a hard spot b/c the defense is not going to win the turnover lottery like they did last year. That will be his fault.


They may not lead the league, but if the DC continues the same principles Smith implemented, they should still be a nuisance to other offenses.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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Tresty is in a hard spot b/c the defense is not going to win the turnover lottery like they did last year. That will be his fault.


They may not lead the league, but if the DC continues the same principles Smith implemented, they should still be a nuisance to other offenses.


Was at practice on Sunday and saw 3 fumbles and they weren't even tackling. Still seems to be a focus.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
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The guy is intellectual and pragmatic. I don't think him being away will be a problem. Hell adjust and adapt based on what he sees on the field. It'd be an issue if the guy the Bears hired was rigid, narrow minded, and married to a "system" to such a degree that he's incapable of thinking outside of it. I don't think we have that problem here.

If anything, Trestman will fail if he can't get guys to buy in, or, like Smith, he can't produce consistently good results on both sides of the ball.


The whole notion of him being gone and thus clueless is blown out of proportion. If he tries to pull in some CFL crap that clearly won't work... he'll have a QB, a WR, multiple position coaches and an offensive coordinator to tell him it won't work. Checks and balances are in place.


Agreed. And I think he'd he'd also be able to see that for himself, in addition to being willing to listen to other voices when he can't, like you mentioned.

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Last year was an anomaly, don't fool yourselves. Compare to the other 8 Lovie years.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
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Tresty is in a hard spot b/c the defense is not going to win the turnover lottery like they did last year. That will be his fault.


They may not lead the league, but if the DC continues the same principles Smith implemented, they should still be a nuisance to other offenses.


Was at practice on Sunday and saw 3 fumbles and they weren't even tackling. Still seems to be a focus.


I would hope so. Smith was rightfully let go, but he proved he can coach defense and lead men during his time here.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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The guy is intellectual and pragmatic. I don't think him being away will be a problem. Hell adjust and adapt based on what he sees on the field. It'd be an issue if the guy the Bears hired was rigid, narrow minded, and married to a "system" to such a degree that he's incapable of thinking outside of it. I don't think we have that problem here.

If anything, Trestman will fail if he can't get guys to buy in, or, like Smith, he can't produce consistently good results on both sides of the ball.


The whole notion of him being gone and thus clueless is blown out of proportion. If he tries to pull in some CFL crap that clearly won't work... he'll have a QB, a WR, multiple position coaches and an offensive coordinator to tell him it won't work. Checks and balances are in place.


Agreed. And I think he'd he'd also be able to see that for himself, in addition to being willing to listen to other voices when he can't, like you mentioned.


I'd like to believe it as well but we have seen it in the past up close with top football minds like Martz...the innovation just stops.

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Sure, but I believe Trestman is way more flexible than Martz was. Of course Trestman can be flexible and open-minded and still fail at bringing the offense into NFL modernity, but I don't think that would be because he left the NFL to become a visiting professor of sorts in the CFL.

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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to Forte possibly catching the ball 60-70 times for 600 + yds. What's there not to like?

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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to Forte possibly catching the ball 60-70 times for 600 + yds. What's there not to like?


Yes, definitely. We got to see some of that stuff when Martz was here in like 2011. A pass-catching RB is a luxury you've got to utilize, to state the obvious. For whatever reason it was toned down last year.

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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to Forte possibly catching the ball 60-70 times for 600 + yds. What's there not to like?


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I miss Lovie

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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to Forte possibly catching the ball 60-70 times for 600 + yds. What's there not to like?


Yes, definitely. We got to see some of that stuff when Martz was here in like 2011. A pass-catching RB is a luxury you've got to utilize, to state the obvious. For whatever reason it was toned down last year.

Believe or not, but Forte's rookie season under the lame Turner offense was when he caught 63 passes.

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I would hope so. Smith was rightfully let go, but he proved he can coach defense and lead men during his time here.


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Forte is optimistic that his role as a receiver will expand again this season. He's certainly aware that Raiders running back Charlie Garner caught 91 passes for 941 yards in 2002 when Bears coach Marc Trestman was Oakland's offensive coordinator.

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I would hope so. Smith was rightfully let go, but he proved he can coach defense and lead men during his time here.


Lovie should get a baton and a marching band.


:lol:

I've got to qualify my Lovie love by saying he's the only coach I've known since I started watching the Bears on a regular to semi-regular basis, but I do think he's a solid coach. If he can get serious about learning offense, and pinpointing as OC guys that come from a specific philosophy that's been proven to work today, then I think he'd be an excellent coaching candidate.

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I was reading my Bears media guide sent to me as a season ticket holder and I noticed the Trestman has a stellar resume up to the point of taking and staying in a CFL job. I don't think it is a matter of him being able to be successful. He has proven that he can. It is just a matter of weather the league passed him by in his years away.


Trestman could have taken 15 years off from football & still be ahead of Lovie & Tice offensively.
For the first time in a long time, the Bears offense is gonna be fun to watch.

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Trestman could have taken 15 years off from football & still be ahead of Lovie , Tice, etc...For the first time in a long time, the Bears offense is gonna be fun to watch.


I don't think there's enough data to support that position. Trestman has never been a NFL HC until now. He's close to a proven commodity on offense, but his leadership skills at this level are an unknown.

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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to Forte possibly catching the ball 60-70 times for 600 + yds. What's there not to like?


The number of check downs in the practice I saw was noticeable. If Forte stays healthy, that may be a possibility.


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