IkeSouth wrote:
lolz you all hated murph and north but now that theyre gone and youre left with bitch and bitchstein you cant wait to get the old guys back.
first off, i can now hear the "BITCH AND BITCHSTEIN *DUH-DUH-DUH-DA-DUHDUHDUH* CHICAGO'S SPORTS RADIO THE SCORE!!! jingle now; thanks ike!
second of all, the bigger problem with b&b is that they've devolved from being easily-the-best-show in the history of the chicago sports market to being..... whatever they are now. whereas many of us found dan to be some sort of a breath of fresh air compared to the programming that was on for the rest of the day, that little bad/gay/weird oasis in a sea of contrary programming, now the status quo has changed to where the status quo IS b&b style programming, albeit done by bernstein-acolytes who aren't nearly as good at radio as dan is.
not to mention that bernstein changed when he came the FOTS.... his show used to be light and fun and "sports isn't important!" and while they'll technically acknowledge that now, dan's come to believe that being FOTS = with great power comes great responsibility and therefore he wants to use the medium of sports talk radio to get across important messages about CTE, child rape (seriously, can you think of another broadcaster who was against child rape b4 bernstein? important radio. i never thought about child rape until it programmed b&b for a good few months a couple'a years ago) and whatever else is going on. hell, dan seems to think that browbeating the callers into submission/agreement-with-his-point is IMPORTANT radio because FOTStein feels its some sort of duty of his to try and gentrify the minds of the callers/audience, and of course the end result of enlightening his audience is basically to get them in lockstep with his every thought.
now that dan's been the FOTS for awhile and the rest of the station has turned into people who saw how successful bernstein has been (especially in terms of going from a lowly reporter to the #1 host at the station) and have tried to emulate him since he's provided the blueprint (working your way up through the ranks) for their future success, or so they think. the problem, as CH and countless others have pointed out, is that when other people like Connor McDoink try to do the Bernstein schtick they're not bernstein, so they end up sounding like drinky amattacola who comes off as all kinds of bitter and sneering at you from his 50kw perch of automatic-correctness, and thus the product that comes out of the speakers has taken a hit. so a lot of us are left here in a situation where the show that brought us all together in the first place has basically turned into some painful radio and now the status quo if the station is everyone trying to do an impression of newschool b&b, but they don't have years and years of good will credit with the audience to cover the proverbial checks that they're cashing nowadays. since most of us used to really like bernstein years ago, he's starting from a position where he's already won us over as daily listeners and losing us there. give us someone who we don't know dick about and then hear their fuck-the-callers bernsteinian schtick and have to decide if we want to listen to again? yeah that's not happening. it's not like we've got years and years of ritual to detox from... it's a simple case of PTFB.
so whilst ike makes a very good point about the big picture of what's going on here, it's a case of the score being two very different stations roughly 10-12 years ago and now. when bernstein was the only show doing pre-FOTS bernstein it was easy to slag off the other stuff we could hear for the rest of the day and single out b&b as the show for us. now that everyone's doing post-FOTS bernstein all day long and we get no escape from the dickheaded condescension, yeah, that standard fare we heard ~20hrs/day 10 years ago seems awfully good in comparison to the "fuck-[us]" dreck that's out there now; even tho if we got back to the station being what it was 10yrs ago we'd eventually become hypercritical of their shortcomings over time and be on here bitching for some fresh faces in the score studios. that's one thing that bernstein, for better or worse, has imparted on us during his reign as FOTS: we're going to be way more hypercritical and negative as a whole because that's what their show has increasingly been for the last 5 years.
so yeah, i reckon this is a case of "the devil you know" versus "good god how many more people do i have to listen to try to be newschool bernstein?" and since we're almost a half-decade deep into the bernsteinian reign, it's getting to the point where we're reaching a critical mass because b&b's fall from grace has hurt a whole lot us because it's not like there was some sort of an abrupt change that brought in a radio show we don't like; in most cases it's that our favorite radio show turned into an awful radio show, which has become the template for everything we hear on the damn station. i don't think there's a great score hope over there in terms of somebody who any of us wanna hear step up and become a new chicago sports media star because, surprise surprise, they don't have any (cue the Beardown talk about how mitch thinks producers are worthless and therefore pays them diddly shit and thus all of the B-talent over there is a bunch of shitty hacks who honestly think impersonating the #1 guy at the station who worked his way up through the ranks is the best way for them to do the same thing, which again Beardown points out is far from the truth, likely much to the detriment of their careers down the road)
so yeah tl;dr = it's not that the old lineup was so awesome we can't help but pine for it, but it's that FOTStein has evolved not just himself but the whole station into such a "heaping helping of hooey" (to use a boersian term) that we're desperate for something, anything that isn't a laurence w holmes joint to break up the monotony that is listening to WDAN.
and i think that the #1 bernstein disciple/clone in the house,
SHAKE THAT, going down to the 9-1 show which was the last outpost/bastion of non-bernstein talk on the station, has crushed our spirits so thoroughly that the indifference/dislike for the station has reached a critical mass where mitch is gonna have an issue on his hands if he lets this situation fester for any longer than a few months in trying to find a replacement for DaMaNeel.
the problem is, of course, that we're a minority.... a vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.... and therefore it's easy/easier to marginalize our complaints as the whinging of marks who they figure will listen anyways (cuz how do we get our material to bitch about?) as opposed to seeing us as the dream focus group that we really are for them.
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Curious Hair wrote:
Les Grobstein's huge hog is proof that God has a sense of humor, isn't it?