Agree with you on Tucker and Trestman. Not impressed with either. Briggs, Peanut, etc should be rested for the remainder of the season. No sense for them to come back with this bad of a team.

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Trestman is great for the offense but I'm not sure he has the decision making ability to be a good head coach. I'm willing to give him at least 1 more year to fix the brain farts. Tucker hasn't been able to get through to the defense all year. I know there are injuries and this team lacks any depth but giving up 1200 yards in 6 weeks says a lot about effort more than talent. He's responsible for that.

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Yeah D was gashed but only gave up 20. No way this is on them. Trestman fucked this game up along with his O line who couldn't open holes on the tough yardage situations along with the fact the Bears don't have a back who can get any push when they need it. BAd play calling and execution when they needed it the most. Defense did its job all things considered. Allowing 20 points in reg should've been enough to win.

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No way this is on the D? How about 4th and 11 in the shadow of their end zone? Trying to tackle AP in OT? Taunting? Sure the kick on 2nd down was dumb but cmon.

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His presser makes him sound like a damn fool. Just stop talking and explaining....it was a bad call...own it and move along.

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He threw his offense under the bus saying he didn't want to risk a penalty or loss of yards on the next play. I'd be very surprised if the percentages supported his move.

Well, it looks like the NFC North is the dumpster of head coaches.

He also referenced the "penalty on the other team" Was he thinking they would have an absurd offensive facemask on a field goal??

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He coached scared. He was so worried about making mistakes that he ended up making a few. I hope he learns from this. It would be better if his brain farts didn't result in losses.

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If McCown throws a pass (that Bennett doesn't have to fall on the ground to catch) for at least 7 yards with 15 seconds left we probably aren't having this conversation either. Gould would have been good for about 61 on that kick.

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You all are funny in the rush to scapegoat Mel Tucker. Especially this week. The defensive coaching staff didn't lose this game, hell the defense didn't lose this game (as pointed out by many).

The defense has lost three Pro Bowlers, one at each level this year. Right now they have 1 DB worth a damn, no linebackers, no defensive tackles, and a DE that plays sometimey. This young coach was foolishly brought in expressly to run Lovie's defense, and basically to replace not only Lovie (a 9-10 yr Bear coach) but also Marinelli with the level of experience he had. Hell, most of you all now complaining hated Lovie's D for the last 4-5 years anyway, or have you forgotten?

His hands are then tied with only three consistent players all year, two of which have been out for a month+. You have nothing in the pipeline that vaguely approximates young defensive talent, and a new coaching staff (plus the GM) that apparently does not understand the skill set required to run the cover-2. But it's Tucker's fault. Laughable.

I don't know who's worse the idiot coach in Detroit, or the idiot GM & lacking perspective head coach here. I think the only coach that really realizes the near absolute lack of talent on that side of the ball is Tucker. But it's easy to bash him, not the OC (former) genius whose line hasn't done dick in a month. The same line that got all of last season's largesse.

Highest $ for an OL signing, two draft picks (one a 1st rounder who hasn't done shit in awhile), another FA lineman, a TE that the OC doesn't seem to know how (or remember) to use for oddly long stretches. All last offseason. The glory of the team after the first quarter of the season. Spare me.

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He was put in a bad spot following a successful defensive coach and having an aging and injured defense. I know he's working with scraps and they aren't very talented. The coach can make sure the effort is there. Getting gashed for 1200 yards rushing in 6 weeks has more to do with effort than it does talent. Not getting a play in on 4th and 11 is a coaching error that a high school DC wouldn't make.

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I find your post funny, considering that the title of this thread is blaming the loss on the head coach. And everyone since the OP has blamed the head coach. Mel Tucker is bad. But his lack of effectiveness ultimately falls on Trestman and then Emery - they hired him. The defense has lost Pro Bowlers, yes, but they don't seem to understand a gap-controlled defense. They overpursue. They don't have a defensive play on 4th and 11. Chris Conte is somehow still playing! This is inexcusable. Many faults of this defense are not about skill; they are about discipline. So, ultimately, who is responsible for that? Mel Tucker didn't impress me to begin with, and he impresses me less now. He never should have been brought in.

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Agreed. I'm beginning to see why it took him forever to get his 1st NFL head coaching job.

2 guys who would have never got their jobs if it wasn't for the creepy Bears: Emery and Trestman.

Imagine if Lovie got dressed down for his offense...was told to be HC and defensive influence only and they let Trestman run the offense with no Lovie interference. Total control over play calling.

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His scraps are horrid. You have zero team speed. You don't have big or even athletic bodies where you need them. You don't have particularly football smart players once Tillman left the field. No athletic tools + no real football instincts or intelligence isn't exactly a formula for running this defense, nor for any adjustments any bona fide coaching staff could even attempt. Getting "NFL effort" from middle of the road college talent isn't a reasonable idea now, nor was it when as soon as they lost the all-pros that could hide the defensive talent shortcomings/inabilities. You can get all the effort you want from Conte, Wright, the LBs, any d-lineman when Peppers isn't playing (except maybe Wootton) but it won't matter in an actual NFL game. Hell, Steltz gave effort today....what good did it do? This team is a whipped dog. They gave effort, realize it didn't matter, they were still gonna get scorched. Now they're shell shocked.

I just think it's myopic to blame a kid DC who's hands were hog tied before play one. The lack of a timely call was bad, but it seems almost routine (again) on the opposite (beloved) side of the ball.

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DC at Jacksonville since 2009. Interim head coach for 5 games in 2011. Hardly a babe in the woods.

Also strongly endorsed by Hub Arkush. That should have been a big red flag.

Damn I miss Lovie Smith. He was so awesome. Never made a questionable call.

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The defense and offense for that matter are woefully undisciplined. The amount of penalties being racked up by both sides of the ball is laughable. This boils down to the leadership of both units. You can be a mid-talent player and still make fundamental tackles or take the appropriate angle of attack if your coach is doing his job, which Tucker is not.

Trestman and Tucker are tied together in this loss.

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Exactly who in the defense is worth a damn in your opinion?

There is less football talent on this side of the ball than in the 35+ years I've been watching the Bears and I can't find a singular member of the defense that I'd actually think would now be a valuable free agent. This failure lies on the GMs (past & present) offices....and the idiots who ask a kid DC to come in and replace 25-30 yr veteran coaches in as exact a fashion as he can, with that lack of talent.

He's made mistakes, certainly, but if you ask me to note the greatest failures on this team, Tucker would be far down the list.

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There were, no doubt, questionable strategy used by Trestman today (I thought Minnesota's decision to kick the FG with 1:40 left was extremely poor clock management, no reason to give the Bears any time with the clock if Walsh misses that 2nd attempt in OT), but the simple fact is that Robbie Gould missed a FG he would normally make probably 95% of the time.

The Bears would have won at least 1 SB if they had a top 10 offense under Lovie. What's sad is I believe we are seeing the opposite with Trestman. If this was the top 10 defense we've seen over the past 10 years this Bears team would be SB favorites. I would just love to one day have both at the same time.

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And what defense did they run in Jacksonville? I don't recall it being the cover 2. I may be wrong though.

But I can't argue about the Arkush endorsement = Red Flag call though....

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Hehe, guys, I gotta tell ya, if you saw what Mel Tucker was doing down there in Jacksonville, well, boys, not a lot of people did see what Mel Tucker was doing down there in Jacksonville, but hehe, this is a guy who really lives the game, and, well, hehe, that's what football's all about, really, heh. I mean, guys, hehe, I gotta say, I'd bet everything I have on Mel Tucker, hehehe.

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It was a horrible decision. 47 yarder? Try to get more yards, you dumb ass. If it's a 30 yarder I would accept kicking it on 2nd down.

Agreed. Forte had gained over 20 yards on the last 3 plays called. Give it to him at least one more time.

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once again it was 2nd down not 3rd for the possible missed snap or whatever. inexcusable

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bad call for sure, but that kick was brutal. would it have made it from 30?

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Yeah seriously what the fuck was this? Why? What could have possibly been the reason?

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