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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:00 am 
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RFDC does, evidently.
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If that is all the Sox get that is a real bad deal.


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Damn you KLaw if this doesn't happen.

This is another example of the Sox fan boy glasses that Keyser wears.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:02 am 
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Brian Anderson Part 2

Woooooooooooooooo!
Except this guy is 5'6".
Dang, I see why everyone is excited.

Brian Anderson in Doug Descenzo's body.
wooooooo! :lol:

Gimmie a break. He's a top 50 prospect. If Theo got a top 50 prospect in return for a 4/5th starter you Cub fans would be penciling him in for the 2015 All Star game.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:03 am 
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pittmike wrote:
I love being a Sox fan and reading all of us having a critical eye. So strikingly different than the cubs off season or prospect thread.

That's a weird thing to love.

Your love depends on Cub fans.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:05 am 
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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
Baseball Prospectus NEVER had Eaton in it's TOP 101 prospects. Last year he was 8th in the Snakes top 10 list. Here is what they said.


Im not sure about Baseball prospectus specifically, but I know Eaton was a top prospect coming after 2012

He was mentioned a lot.


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Baseball Prospectus is so good at predicting the future, they knew he would be traded to the Sox and preemtively gave him a shitty scouting report.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:54 am 
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It seems like they see this guy as a CF and leadoff hitter. I would like to see what kind of player De Aza could be with those responsibilities taken from him. I cannot imagine De Aza has the discipline to be #2 behind a base stealing threat. He would be a nice #9 in front of Eaton. That said, I don't want Viciedo to lose at bats to De Aza until at least half way through the season.

I could see a scenario where Viciedo busts out, Dunn is gone and Paulie bounces back resulting in him being the 2015 DH.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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:lol: yeah real critical eye some have.
Joe Orr is more critical of the Sox than everybody else here of the Cubs combined.

Not true.

Northside dan and rpb both are just as critical of the Cubs.

And what I said still stands. To give up a major league proven starter for a guy that is a huge question mark and very well maybe another Brian Anderson is a bad deal IMO. Maybe he will prove me wrong.

And my comment about Keyser is true as well. If the Cubs made this exact deal he would be shitting all over it. But because it is the Sox he is over the moon about it. It is just what he does. It is ashame too because when you can get him away from the fan boy stuff he actually has some real solid baseball thoughts.

good dolphin, I agree with you about De Aza making a good #9 hitter. Will be interesting to see what happens there. But if they keep De Aza I can only image what will happen to poor Keyser.

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Sox take Cuban Adrian Nieto from Nats in Rule 5 draft. .280 in high A. like 23 years old or something. could make team if Flowers is not ready to go on opening day.

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I think the Sox will try to work out a trade with the Nats because I don't see how they can carry him on the major league roster all season. Send them De Aza and an international bonus slot and call it a day.


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If you're trying to change the style and character of the team, you're probably better off to keep DeAza and play him in left and bat him down near the bottom and trade Viciedo. Viciedo is more expensive and will likely bring significantly more in a trade. DeAza gives you another left-handed bat and you can work on his baserunning. At least there's something to work with. Viciedo is just another guy in a long line of slow-footed sluggers that so many Sox fans have been railing against. He's Carlos Lee without the batting eye.

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WTF JORR?? Is this how you gamble the horses? Let's play it safe and see if I don't lose any money today?

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WTF JORR?? Is this how you gamble the horses? Let's play it safe and see if I don't lose any money today?


I don't like DeAza, but I don't like Viciedo either. You want to get faster and more athletic, which one do you keep? You probably aren't moving them both right now. And Viciedo gets you a better return. I'd have no problem with both of them gone.

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El Caballo was better than Tanks with the glove and the bat.

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I don't think either of them have any trade value. DeAza ain't getting any better. Viciedo might possibly get better. He was hurt last year. I DOUBT he gets much better. There's a 10% chance. I'll take that gamble.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
El Caballo was better than Tanks with the glove and the bat.


I don't know how much better he was with the glove, but that really shouldn't matter so much in left anyway. Lee was miles better with the stick. Different time though. The Sox kicked Ordonez and Lee to the curb and won a World Series. If you transported those two circa 2004 to the present, they're probably among the best five or six outfielders today.

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I don't think either of them have any trade value. DeAza ain't getting any better. Viciedo might possibly get better. He was hurt last year. I DOUBT he gets much better. There's a 10% chance. I'll take that gamble.


Maybe. But the kind of power Viciedo has is in a lot shorter supply these days than it once was. I think he gets you a lot more back than DeAza.

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I don't think either of them have any trade value. DeAza ain't getting any better. Viciedo might possibly get better. He was hurt last year. I DOUBT he gets much better. There's a 10% chance. I'll take that gamble.


Maybe. But the kind of power Viciedo has is in a lot shorter supply these days than it once was. I think he gets you a lot more back than DeAza.


At his age, Viciedo has value. Some team would take a flyer on him based on his 2012 numbers which were solid.


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If you're trying to change the style and character of the team, you're probably better off to keep DeAza and play him in left and bat him down near the bottom and trade Viciedo. Viciedo is more expensive and will likely bring significantly more in a trade. DeAza gives you another left-handed bat and you can work on his baserunning. At least there's something to work with. Viciedo is just another guy in a long line of slow-footed sluggers that so many Sox fans have been railing against. He's Carlos Lee without the batting eye.


He is one of the worst fielders that I have ever seen.

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If you're trying to change the style and character of the team, you're probably better off to keep DeAza and play him in left and bat him down near the bottom and trade Viciedo. Viciedo is more expensive and will likely bring significantly more in a trade. DeAza gives you another left-handed bat and you can work on his baserunning. At least there's something to work with. Viciedo is just another guy in a long line of slow-footed sluggers that so many Sox fans have been railing against. He's Carlos Lee without the batting eye.


He is one of the worst fielders that I have ever seen.


He was definitely brutal in center last year, but he was more than fine the year before that. I have to think he would be an elite defender playing left field everyday.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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If you're trying to change the style and character of the team, you're probably better off to keep DeAza and play him in left and bat him down near the bottom and trade Viciedo. Viciedo is more expensive and will likely bring significantly more in a trade. DeAza gives you another left-handed bat and you can work on his baserunning. At least there's something to work with. Viciedo is just another guy in a long line of slow-footed sluggers that so many Sox fans have been railing against. He's Carlos Lee without the batting eye.


He is one of the worst fielders that I have ever seen.


He was definitely brutal in center last year, but he was more than fine the year before that. I have to think he would be an elite defender playing left field everyday.


I meant Viciedo.

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and now we see why the sox suck! :lol:

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He is one of the worst fielders that I have ever seen.


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I don't think either of them have any trade value. DeAza ain't getting any better. Viciedo might possibly get better. He was hurt last year. I DOUBT he gets much better. There's a 10% chance. I'll take that gamble.


look at De Aza's numbers as a starter for the Sox. They are pretty good for a CF. On paper he is a good looking player...on paper.

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Another move today with the DBacks

Addison Reed for 3B prospect Matt Davidson

Davidson is a 22 year old who played in AAA last year. Davidson, 23 in March, made his big league debut in 2013, slashing .237/.333/.434 with three homers in 87 plate appearances. The 2009 supplemental-rounder entered the 2013 campaign ranked as Baseball America's No. 88 overall prospect and MLB.com's No. 77 overall prospect. Davidson delivered on that praise by slashing .280/.350/.481 with 17 homers in 500 plate appearances prior to his promotion to the big leagues. He is controllable through the 2019 season and can't reach arbitration eligibility until at least the 2016-17 offseason.


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Also, Gavin Floyd signed with the Braves today.


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Another move today with the DBacks

Addison Reed for 3B prospect Matt Davidson

Davidson is a 22 year old who played in AAA last year. Davidson, 23 in March, made his big league debut in 2013, slashing .237/.333/.434 with three homers in 87 plate appearances. The 2009 supplemental-rounder entered the 2013 campaign ranked as Baseball America's No. 88 overall prospect and MLB.com's No. 77 overall prospect. Davidson delivered on that praise by slashing .280/.350/.481 with 17 homers in 500 plate appearances prior to his promotion to the big leagues. He is controllable through the 2019 season and can't reach arbitration eligibility until at least the 2016-17 offseason.


Like that deal for the Sox.


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Seems like a steal for the White Sox


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They must be pretty confident in some of the other arms they have. They give up another guy who has shown he can pitch effectively at the majors for a guy who is question mark.

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Seems like a steal for the White Sox
If the Cubs made a trade like this Cubs fans would be going nuts...

Oh, bad habit.

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