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Lots of meatball "our team sucks" comments in this thread. Despite the Bears sharting all over themselves tonight, they can still win their division next week. This is the modern day NFL. Happens to every team.

Cutler does absolutely suck though. No way Emery and Tresty trust their future to Jay.


But you do realize this team sucks? There is 0 on defense, trestman makes odd calls, ST sucks. It has been a completely wasted year I feel like.


This is year 1 with a completely new system and coaching staff. Tresty fixed the offense in less than 1 year and they have a chance to win the division next week. That a pretty good first year in my book. The Bears have exceeded expectations this year.

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I was going for positives, trying to build an identity. I don't think bad defense is what they should build on but they are putting up a great foundation if that's what they are going for.
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McCown people will be happy because no way Cutler ends this game healthy if he keeps playing.


i don't know if we're "McCown" people, but rather "good offense" people. I think you and I both missed that tonight.


Ah, Cutler has been bad too.

But the Eagles D has had their ears pinned back since the Bears 3rd drive.

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I know.

I was just being a smart ass.

And scorehead, the bears have a chance to win the division because the division sucks. not because they are a good team.


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Scorehead wrote:
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Lots of meatball "our team sucks" comments in this thread. Despite the Bears sharting all over themselves tonight, they can still win their division next week. This is the modern day NFL. Happens to every team.

Cutler does absolutely suck though. No way Emery and Tresty trust their future to Jay.


But you do realize this team sucks? There is 0 on defense, trestman makes odd calls, ST sucks. It has been a completely wasted year I feel like.


This is year 1 with a completely new system and coaching staff. Tresty fixed the offense in less than 1 year and they have a chance to win the division next week. That a pretty good first year in my book. The Bears have exceeded expectations this year.


In a way you could say they've been running in place: last year they were tied for second in points given up, but among the worst in the league on offense. This year they are a top seven or so offense, but the worst defense in the league.

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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.

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This is year 1 with a completely new system and coaching staff. Tresty fixed the offense in less than 1 year and they have a chance to win the division next week. That a pretty good first year in my book. The Bears have exceeded expectations this year.


So? It's not like he never had jobs within the NFL. All I heard for months was Trestman is the qb whistler, so great, good plan, smartest guy in the room. I gotta tell ya I haven't seen it. There were a few games against bad teams/bad ds where the offense way under performed. They exceeded shit.
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Was that just a six-play, 70 yard TD drive on all running plays?

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veganfan21 wrote:
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Lots of meatball "our team sucks" comments in this thread. Despite the Bears sharting all over themselves tonight, they can still win their division next week. This is the modern day NFL. Happens to every team.

Cutler does absolutely suck though. No way Emery and Tresty trust their future to Jay.


But you do realize this team sucks? There is 0 on defense, trestman makes odd calls, ST sucks. It has been a completely wasted year I feel like.


I don't think it's a wasted year. The offense has definitely made progress, and that's exactly why this game is so damn confusing. Things have progressively gotten better on offense, and then everything implodes tonight against a nonthreatening defense. A coach is supposed to help his team sustain that level of progress; hasn't happened tonight. I don't care if they put up 50 next week on GB, this game right here was the season. Win and you're in. They blew it.


The last 3-4 years have been wasted years. Anyone that thinks this team will win a title in the next 20 years is fooling themselves.

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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.


Agreed. Not really worried about it.

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I know.

I was just being a smart ass.

And beardown, the bears have a chance to win the division because the division sucks. not because they are a good team.

The Bear don't have to get better. The other teams just have to get a little bit worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 15/16
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veganfan21 wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
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Lots of meatball "our team sucks" comments in this thread. Despite the Bears sharting all over themselves tonight, they can still win their division next week. This is the modern day NFL. Happens to every team.

Cutler does absolutely suck though. No way Emery and Tresty trust their future to Jay.


But you do realize this team sucks? There is 0 on defense, trestman makes odd calls, ST sucks. It has been a completely wasted year I feel like.


I don't think it's a wasted year. The offense has definitely made progress, and that's exactly why this game is so damn confusing. Things have progressively gotten better on offense, and then everything implodes tonight against a nonthreatening defense. A coach is supposed to help his team sustain that level of progress; hasn't happened tonight. I don't care if they put up 50 next week on GB, this game right here was the season. Win and you're in. They blew it.


The last 3-4 years have been wasted years. Anyone that thinks this team will win a title in the next 20 years is fooling themselves.


As long as they keep hiring recycled Bears employees, you are absolutely correct. This organization needs a reset.
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.


Agreed. Not really worried about it.


I am. They look like shit.
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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 15/16
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Spaulding wrote:
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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.


Agreed. Not really worried about it.


I am. They look like shit.


Eagles looked like shit last week. NFL.

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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.


Agreed. Not really worried about it.

Something tells me Doug and OB aren't going to share your opinion.

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I'm not really sure how a Bears fan couldn't be "worried". They have no defense. None.
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I was going for positives, trying to build an identity. I don't think bad defense is what they should build on but they are putting up a great foundation if that's what they are going for.

This is what so many wanted. Get rid of Lovie. Fix the offense. Survive with a mediocre defense. You do not need defense to win in the league these days so many said.

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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.


Agreed. Not really worried about it.

Something tells me Doug and OB aren't going to share your opinion.


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None of these guys should be in.

Trestman is probably hoping Cutler gets hurt so he can roll with McCown next week :wink:

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This is what so many wanted. Get rid of Lovie. Fix the offense. Survive with a mediocre defense. You do not need defense to win in the league these days so many said.


Lovie was part of the problem. Really, how many games you think they'd have won with him still coaching?
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Just a bad game all around. It's not a big deal. Bears will come home and get it done. No chance Rodgers plays.


Agreed. Not really worried about it.


I am. They look like shit.


Eagles looked like shit last week. NFL.


I don't think being worried is the question, it's more about disappointment. Sure, they can win next week and be in, but why not take care of business now? It would have been a great step in the right direction to win now, eliminate the Pack, and then worry about playing or resting for next week. Instead you get this abomination of a game, and an elimination game next week.

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This is what so many wanted. Get rid of Lovie. Fix the offense. Survive with a mediocre defense. You do not need defense to win in the league these days so many said.


Lovie was part of the problem. Really, how many games you think they'd have won with him still coaching?


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This is what so many wanted. Get rid of Lovie. Fix the offense. Survive with a mediocre defense. You do not need defense to win in the league these days so many said.


Lovie was part of the problem. Really, how many games you think they'd have won with him still coaching?


They won more last year than they will win this year.

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None of these guys should be in.

Trestman is probably hoping Cutler gets hurt so he can roll with McCown next week :wink:

We can only hope Jay can put up as many points tonight in garbage time as McCown did in Minnesota.

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Trestman going to the bullpen.

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Trestman going to the bullpen.

Ahh so that will be no in answer to my previous post.

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This is year 1 with a completely new system and coaching staff. Tresty fixed the offense in less than 1 year and they have a chance to win the division next week. That a pretty good first year in my book. The Bears have exceeded expectations this year.


So? It's not like he never had jobs within the NFL. All I heard for months was Trestman is the qb whistler, so great, good plan, smartest guy in the room. I gotta tell ya I haven't seen it. There were a few games against bad teams/bad ds where the offense way under performed. They exceeded shit.


So you thought the Bears would be better or worse than they actually are?

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This is what so many wanted. Get rid of Lovie. Fix the offense. Survive with a mediocre defense. You do not need defense to win in the league these days so many said.


Lovie was part of the problem. Really, how many games you think they'd have won with him still coaching?

You avoided my point nicely.

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