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Are you suggesting that you are a better judge of standup comedy than Seinfeld?

Past the age of 50 or so, anyone labeling Carlin as "standup comic" doesn't know what they're talking about because his aim wasn't to be funny ... this ground has been covered before ... he was far more insightful than he was funny.

I can agree with that, however, I would re-classify the observations as being that he was a forerunner of a game-change in the medium.

By your definition, Joe Rogan and Dennis Leary would not be considered "standup comics".

Rogan is not good on stage.

I disagree wholeheartedly with this.

I could see you loving Rogan.

I like his podcast in small doses. A lot better than the standup


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Quick reminder for those making definitive statements: It's art.

I'm not sure anyone has made definitive statements, but strong opinions are obviously the most prevalent on subjective topics. Let someone tell you that Nas is a terrible rapper. I doubt you'd respond by saying "I respect that opinion. Art is subjective." Idk though, maybe you would.

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Quick reminder for those making definitive statements: It's art.

I'm not sure anyone has made definitive statements, but strong opinions are obviously the most prevalent on subjective topics. Let someone tell you that Nas is a terrible rapper. I doubt you'd respond by saying "I respect that opinion. Art is subjective." Idk though, maybe you would.

Fair enough but there isnt a ton of rappers out there saying Nas sucks like they say Leno is great.

Maybe he's just not your cup of tea.


Do you like Seinfeld's standup?


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 Post subject: Re: Jay Leno
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I could see you loving Rogan.

I like his podcast in small doses. A lot better than the standup

All due respect, but in my opinion your tastes are unreliable at best. I tried my hardest to coax a giggle out of that Colin Quinn crap you put up, and I got nuthin'.

Ok. That's two guys we disagree on. But the stuff I put up about Quinn is just one long running Twitter joke. You might like his stand up. Maybe not.

But I think even Rogan's biggest fans would say he's better in the podcast form.


Actually, I find most comedians better in that form. I think thats why Seinfeld's coffee show is doing so well. Off the cuff comedy is the best


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I like all the guys you mentioned better, but I think Seinfeld probably knows what he's talking about.

If he was being serious, then he really doesn't know what he's talking about. You cant really even make a case that Leno is better than Carlin. If you could, what would it sound like?

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Well, funny guys make good hosts

And I think we just solved the mystery as to why Leno sucks as a host.


Are you suggesting that you are a better judge of standup comedy than Seinfeld?

Past the age of 50 or so, anyone labeling Carlin as "standup comic" doesn't know what they're talking about because his aim wasn't to be funny ... this ground has been covered before ... he was far more insightful than he was funny.

Are you really suggesting satirists don't aim to be funny?

And yes, if Seinfeld truly believes that Leno is the best standup comic of all time, then he is a terrible judge of comedy.


I'm saying, quite clearly, that Carlin's primary goal was not to be funny ... it was his vehicle of choice, but not his intended purpose.

Your delusion about Seinfeld is, oddly enough, funny.

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I'm saying, quite clearly, that Carlin's primary goal was not to be funny ... it was his vehicle of choice, but not his intended purpose.

Your delusion about Seinfeld is, oddly enough, funny.

To your first point, it sounds like you are just making shit up at this point. Carlin was a classical satirist. Of course he wanted to be insightful as well as funny. You're trying to act like those are mutually exclusive.

To your second, want to be more specific? I think Seinfeld is a terrible judge of comedy if he thinks Leno is actually the best comic in the history of comedy. You're acting like it's unprecedented for someone to be a terrible judge of talent in an area where they once(or still do) excelled as a performer. Maybe you haven't followed Isiah Thomas' or Matt Millen's post-player career.

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What was Leno's most famous joke?

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I'm saying, quite clearly, that Carlin's primary goal was not to be funny ... it was his vehicle of choice, but not his intended purpose.

Your delusion about Seinfeld is, oddly enough, funny.

To your first point, it sounds like you are just making shit up at this point. Carlin was a classical satirist. Of course he wanted to be insightful as well as funny. You're trying to act like those are mutually exclusive.

To your second, want to be more specific? I think Seinfeld is a terrible judge of comedy if he thinks Leno is actually the best comic in the history of comedy. You're acting like it's unprecedented for someone to be a terrible judge of talent in an area where they once(or still do) excelled as a performer. Maybe you haven't followed Isiah Thomas' or Matt Millen's post-player career.


I have no idea what Thomas or Millen have to do with anything; I frankly don't want to know.

I'm not trying to get shitty, I'm just saying that for you have said in multiple posts that because you disagree with Seinfeld that he's therefore inarguably incorrect which is just presposterous. Saying you disagree is fine; saying he therefore doesn't know what he's talking about is just absurd.

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What was Leno's most famous joke?

'Crunch all you want, we'll make more'

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When have I ever said its inarguable? I believe this very thread is proof that it is not.

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All I can find is Seinfeld saying Cosby is his favorite comedian in a Q and A with Fallon's audience


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What was Leno's most famous joke?

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Seinfeld is also a fan of Abbot & "Let Me Steal Curly's Act" Costello.


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I've never watched Leno's stand up. I cant imagine why I would search it out based on how awful and unfunny he is on The Tonight Show. Seinfeld has gotten less funny to me as the years go by. I've tried to watch the new interview thing he is doing and it just does nothing for me. Not funny.

EDIT: Seinfeld the person/comedian has gotten less funny. The old Seinfeld show is still hilarious.

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When have I ever said its inarguable? I believe this very thread is proof that it is not.


Implication.

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I like all the guys you mentioned better, but I think Seinfeld probably knows what he's talking about.

If he was being serious, then he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

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I haven't seen it but I can see Leno being more funny on stand up. He was ok on Letterman early days and his stand up gives more freedom than the older tonight show audience and FCC. Like Bob Saget I was like holy shit this is the guy from that family show.

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Nomination fully supported. He's been a total fucking douche since the Conan fiasco . STFU and enjoy the multi millions you've been overpaid to be unfunny and horrible and go lock yourself in your 100 vintage car garage and turn them on and choke you fuck.


Another example of money turning a guy into a douchebag. I liked the Jay Leno that would show up with beef sandwiches and shoot the shit with Steve & Garry on the radio. That Leno has been dead for 30 years!

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen
No, those who disagree with me are, by definition, wrong.

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

:lol:

You guys are such fucking babies. Go over to MSFMB.

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

You're right. Carmelo Anthony is a winner.

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

What does that mean? Its a message board. Of course the person with the unique opinion is going to have to defend their position

Im being attacked in the Rome thread right now by your guys standards. Are you guys maybe a little sensitive?


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Im being attacked in the Rome thread right now by your guys standards. Are you guys maybe a little sensitive?


I dont know Rogers Park Brianna.......

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Im being attacked in the Rome thread right now by your guys standards. Are you guys maybe a little sensitive?


I dont know Rogers Park Brianna.......

Ive never felt so vulnerable....


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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen
Jay Leno sucks and so do you.

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

You're right. Carmelo Anthony is a winner.


I'm ready to fight that one. Give him a little help and he's ready to roll. It's hard to call a guy a loser that has made it to the playoffs every year that he has been in the league. Lebron can't say that. Hasn't won anything and to be honest I don't think he will before he retires. I don't think that Charles Barkley is a loser nor Dan Marino either. Winning in a lot of cases is product of who you play with. That is my basic argument on the Carmelo front. Lebron James ran to play with one top five the other a top ten player in order to get a ring. He was getting bumped in the second round of the playoffs and he saw that he could not win with that collection of bums. Durant won't win anything without Westbrook does that make him a loser also?

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

What does that mean? Its a message board. Of course the person with the unique opinion is going to have to defend their position

Im being attacked in the Rome thread right now by your guys standards. Are you guys maybe a little sensitive?

It does not bother me actually. Just an observation.

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LOL...alot of bitter people here. Seinfeld has stated that Leno is the best ever at stand up. Funny whenever someone starts a post here with their viewpoint everybody like sheep falls in line. If someone disagrees that person gets mocked by the babies here.


Agreed the person that has the audacity to disagree becomes the target. The viewpoint he brings is customarily ignored and he becomes the target. It's an interesting tactic yet easily foreseen

What does that mean? Its a message board. Of course the person with the unique opinion is going to have to defend their position

Im being attacked in the Rome thread right now by your guys standards. Are you guys maybe a little sensitive?

It does not bother me actually. Just an observation.



Oh an observation?? Who the hell are you man, Isaac Fucking Newton?!?

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