You just have to believe they are engaging in this behavior on an airline. While wearing shower shoes.

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The guy was a top lineman on a power rushing offense in a top conference. He has ability. In regards to mettle, he is a second year pro who has 23 starts under his belt and you are cutting bait on him. Shea Mc Clellin, a guy who has shown next to nothing, has gotten more time than that.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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I saw a Zep cover band called Presence at Shark City, back in the late 90's.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

It's important to toughen up the trainer. Fire and passion is a way of life.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Martin wouldn't even stand up for the little guy! What a chump!

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Well that's clearly different; you're comparing morally reprehensible behavior shown toward some little Asian guy as opposed to normal, friendly teammate behavior shown toward some big black football player ... it's all contextual, come on, Nas, you know this, it's really simple ... hell by signing that contract to play NFL football Martin was clearly asking for it ... they're all asking for it ... if you don't want to be treated that way then he doesn't dress like an NFL football player, and it's always been that way, that's just the way it is ... it's really simple.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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I would think the steroid taking players hurling racial slurs at the Asian trainer were the real chumps.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

#Truth

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

That's a given.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Blow people?

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Look up the word "manhood" and it is clear that Martin is deficient in that regard, so yeah I'm calling him out.

No, he didn't have to punch Incognito in the mouth. On the contrary, having admittedly been bullied in grade school and high school by the half-pint gangster nerds at the elite private schools he attended he had some serious emotional baggage. He had the opportunity and the resources to get the needed professional help that would allow him the ability and strategies to overcome the situation.

The $10,000 he paid as a fine? He wasn't the only player who didn't attend the Las Vegas trip and get assessed the fine, he was just the only one who felt compelled to write a check. The other player told Incognito to "fuck off."

Finally, its amusing how many internet tough guys and bullies exist in this forum who are defending Martin.

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I think you need to think this through again.

Why wasn't Martin in a position to tell Incognito to "fuck off"? It's because Incognito was making his life a living hell.

We aren't even arguing if Incognito severely bullied Martin. It seems that everyone thinks he did. Some just thinks he should have "just taken it" and he should have went to therapy. That is so messed up. You are getting bullied to the point where you have to go to therapy and it is his fault for not taking his bullying better.

Soon we'll be seeing "He shouldn't have dressed in a provactive manner".

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Martin acknowledges having felt bullied his whole life, except for the fun times in college. Professional help would have given Martin the tools to manage and eventually put Incognito out of his life. He had the resources and the support system but he chose not to utilize them. In his own words and his exchanges with his parents its clear that he needed help but chose not to get it. If not Incognito it would be his wife, or business manager, or the barista at the corner Starbucks who would make sure that his latte was whole milk and not the soy he asked for.

If someone walks up to you and says "your momma" do you run and cry? Punch them in the mouth? Ignore them for being an asshole? Choosing the third option is what most normal people choose, and when it gets to be too much and the temptation is for one of the first two choices that's when you get help, either professionally or authoritatively. Getting help is not "just taking it" but developing the tools and abilities to either not let the situation get to him or to overcome. Martin's problems weren't just Incognito and while not being privileged to all of his electronic communications enough can be gleamed that he would have benefitted from help. A puppy wasn't going to make him stronger, grilling steaks with his psychiatrist wasn't going to help him.

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Incognitio was a team captain and leader and Martin had no realistic way of avoiding him. He couldn't even switch jobs as the NFL requires him to be a member of the Dolphins through no choice of his own. I would quit my job and find a new one if a company leader was treating me that way but Martin literally had no other option unless he went to the CFL or switched professions.

Again, we are now blaming Martin for being bad at being bullied. Is that really fair? He did make a lot of efforts to make the situation better. It became too much for him. He chose the best option for himself. Since even you seem to acknowledge that Incognito treated him pretty horribly I don't think it's fair to think that Martin was wrong for not being a better and more silent victim.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!