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Jesus Fuck, that's like 2 pages and there are only 2 fucking posts.

WALL OF TEXT.

CUT IT SHORT, SHORTY.

OR PUBLISH A FUCKING BOOK.

Sini and CH gotta be BernSTINE handles.


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Jesus Fuck, that's like 2 pages and there are only 2 fucking posts.

WALL OF TEXT.

CUT IT SHORT, SHORTY.

OR PUBLISH A FUCKING BOOK.

Sini and CH gotta be BernSTINE handles.


Did you make fun of me once when I asked Sini to use more BREVITY?

but I agree and have told him so, it would make him more readable.

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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?

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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?


Guessing that was a personal plight?

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SomeGuy wrote:
Jesus Fuck, that's like 2 pages and there are only 2 fucking posts.

WALL OF TEXT.

CUT IT SHORT, SHORTY.

OR PUBLISH A FUCKING BOOK.

Sini and CH gotta be BernSTINE handles.


Did you make fun of me once when I asked Sini to use more BREVITY?

but I agree and have told him so, it would make him more readable.


Never happaned.

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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?


They akll wwnet to antoether board. they are dead.


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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?



sssssshhh shut up the elders are always right even when they change their mind

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I have found the Fallon campaign very interesting. As has been stated and is extremely obvious, they are using this whole "viral marketing" campaign on purpose to market to the internet kids. I have seen every clip that has been "viraled" from this show (I thought the $100 bet one was the best b/c of Colbert at the end, didn't even get one minute into the EWW skit, and watched the history of rap part 5 b/c I have seen the others and found them amusing), and I have serious doubts that the obvious endgame (if the internet kids like the clips, they will watch!) will ever happen because they will do what I did....watch the best moments the next day and that's it.

My favorite of the late night guys is Ferguson. I feel like Kimmel and Fallon are just trying to court the youtube kids with their skits, Ferguson does the show that he wants without caring about what people think.

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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?



sssssshhh shut up the elders are always right even when they change their mind


BigFan definitgely has his cock in your ass.

Get over it.

Your thoughts in whatever thread that got deleted were probably stupid, trite and barely legible.


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I have found the Fallon campaign very interesting. As has been stated and is extremely obvious, they are using this whole "viral marketing" campaign on purpose to market to the internet kids. I have seen every clip that has been "viraled" from this show (I thought the $100 bet one was the best b/c of Colbert at the end, didn't even get one minute into the EWW skit, and watched the history of rap part 5 b/c I have seen the others and found them amusing), and I have serious doubts that the obvious endgame (if the internet kids like the clips, they will watch!) will ever happen because they will do what I did....watch the best moments the next day and that's it.

My favorite of the late night guys is Ferguson. I feel like Kimmel and Fallon are just trying to court the youtube kids with their skits, Ferguson does the show that he wants without caring about what people think.


You would think thats the plan, but Fallon rarely sends out tweets (compared to others) and he does the "Great Having ____ on the show last night", when you think he would send out "We are having _____ on the show tonight"

It could be a very simple formula of "Jimmy, we want you to be the next Johnny, and just become such a staple that everyone just watches you"

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CH and Sini mega-posts, back-to-back. Image

Fallon always looks like he has to take a piss or is hopped up on bath salts or something. makes me nervous watching his show.

These youtube friendly segments that Fallon and Kimmel do are about the only way the non-Daily Show/Colbert Report/Adult Swim late night shows reach an audience these days.

Adult Swim is #1 in viewers in that time slot, followed by the Comedy Central shows.

There's talk of when Letterman signs off of returning to a 90 minute late night format, like Carson used to do (without the on-air chain-smoking). Maybe Ferguson/Colbert could pull it off, freed from their current shows' limitations/shite budgets.


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Yeah,between all the SNL alumni making movies,talk shows,etc.
The only other guy who might have some pull is Dick Wolf with all his hit Cop Shows on NBC.



Brad Grey must not do TV production anymore, he was killing it in the late 90's:

HBO: The Larry Sanders Show, Mr. Show, Real Time with Bill Maher, and The Sopranos
NBC: NewsRadio, Just Shoot Me.

Grey and Gary Shandling got into it over a bunch of things. And then Grey had some shady muscle PI (Anthony Pellicano) fuck with Shandling.

Thought Grey might've been involved in Homicide (first and best of the cinema caliber TV shows of the current generation), but that was Fontana-Levinson.


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I've never watched his show but I thought the clip was hilarious. I attempted to watch the show but since I wasn't allowed to fast forward I only saw about 35 seconds of it. If he show is anything like that clip on a regular basis I will have to DVR it in the future.

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Why were some people up in arms over Miley Cyrus doing something hip-hopish at an awards show, I saw words like "cultural appropriation" and "racist" thrown around, but Jimmy and Justin doing this is just adorable and peachy-keen with everyone?

Also, one thing I noticed at the beginning of this History of Rap skit is the same thing that is, IMO, making SNL increasingly difficult to watch -- shrieking teen and 20-something girls. Anytime some dreamy hunk of host does anything, it doesn't even matter if it's funny or suggestive, it sounds like Ed Sullivan just introduced the Beatles.


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Why were some people up in arms over Miley Cyrus doing something hip-hopish at an awards show, I saw words like "cultural appropriation" and "racist" thrown around, but Jimmy and Justin doing this is just adorable and peachy-keen with everyone?

Also, one thing I noticed at the beginning of this History of Rap skit is the same thing that is, IMO, making SNL increasingly difficult to watch -- shrieking teen and 20-something girls. Anytime some dreamy hunk of host does anything, it doesn't even matter if it's funny or suggestive, it sounds like Ed Sullivan just introduced the Beatles.


I have no idea what you're talking about but Justin has done similar skits for years on SNL. All of them were hilarious too. I don't know anyone that thinks blacks own that genre of music. In fact one of the top 3 rappers of all time happens to be white.

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I don't know anyone that thinks blacks own that genre of music. In fact one of the top 3 rappers of all time happens to be white.


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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Thought Grey might've been involved in Homicide (first and best of the cinema caliber TV shows of the current generation), but that was Fontana-Levinson.

Are we not counting Twin Peaks as the first Television-As-Cinema program, or would you call that something else entirely? Because I think that was the show that really redefined what television can be, not to take anything away from Homicide, of course.

As for the SJWs getting upset with this sketch like they did with Miley Cyrus shaking her pancake ass, I dunno, give them time.

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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?

That was really only Ryan, and there was actually a backlash against him complaining about the one liners.

Besides, there's a happy medium. If you drop 1200 words in a post, most of us will read through it because you're a good writer and you don't often do that. So it'll be interesting and probably pretty easy to read. Sini does it all the time so it's easy to skip some of his best stuff because it can be easily confused with his worst stuff.

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As for the SJWs getting upset with this sketch like they did with Miley Cyrus shaking her pancake ass, I dunno, give them time.


The selective "outrage" is sometimes interesting.


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Tad Queasy wrote:
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As for the SJWs getting upset with this sketch like they did with Miley Cyrus shaking her pancake ass, I dunno, give them time.


The selective "outrage" is sometimes interesting.


One of the things I find interesting is that their go-to insults for guys they don't like are "neckbeard" and "virgin," and as anyone who went through high school can tell you, "you're ugly and can't get laid" is the go-to insult of the social haves for the social have-nots, which makes one wonder who's really oppressing whom here.

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As for the SJWs getting upset with this sketch like they did with Miley Cyrus shaking her pancake ass, I dunno, give them time.


The selective "outrage" is sometimes interesting.


It appears that you 2 are the only ones outraged because someone in the world didn't like something Miley Cyrus did and no one has had an issue with Jimmy and Justin doing something 5 times. If I were pissed about it would it make you feel better?

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I'm not outraged over either one.

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I think ShitRedditSays and Jezebel were the ones upset about Miley Cyrus's cultural appropriation, if that helps, though they were much more upset with Robin Thicke for "Blurred Lines."

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As for the SJWs getting upset with this sketch like they did with Miley Cyrus shaking her pancake ass, I dunno, give them time.


The selective "outrage" is sometimes interesting.


It appears that you 2 are the only ones outraged because someone in the world didn't like something Miley Cyrus did and no one has had an issue with Jimmy and Justin doing something 5 times. If I were pissed about it would it make you feel better?


I'm not the least bit upset about either. I think CH and I are in the same boat of rolling our eyes and shaking our heads at the people (SJWs) he mentioned. Hopefully, they only make up a small percentage of the population.


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Didn't we once have a backlash against the overreliance on one-liners and a plea for longer thoughts?


Guessing that was a personal plight?


hey man, you know i got respect for you and your house here biggie.... and really ~90% of my posts adhere to the HORRIBLE FUCKING QUOTE "brevity is the soul of wit" --- cuz you know who said that? an unfunny asshole who wants to apply their standards to other people because the more they talk the dumber the brevity guy looks.

but i digress.... sometimes i just gotta let it rip man. and i know it's a post for the ~5-10% who dont mind taking a few minutes to have a literary adventure with me, especially when i'm in full on tangent-dropping mode and i have those (parenthesis that pop up and i go on and on for 2-3 lines and never get back to what i was saying before i started the parenthesis) but hey, impromptu e.e. cummings impersonation here aside, i do care and get what you're saying..... but like, shit, sometimes a rapper has gotta do a real track or 2 on the LP "for the heads" that aint for the radio or for the honies.

and y'all are my honies, bulletinboardistically speaking. so i'll keep it simple and straightforward for you.... but seriously, anyone who parrots that "brevity is the soul of wit" crap is a miserable Caller Bob who wouldn't have a chance reading the best book ever written: the illuminatus! trilogy.

hey curious hair, do yourself a favor and check-out/order yourself a copy of the illuminatus! trilogy. trust me when i say that this book is for people like you insomuchas it's ~900 pages of str8up genius porn. i know the book's absurdist/discordian worldview will tick with your ability to go all rowdy roddy piper in they live poppin on the pre-"deal with it" sunglasses and decoding the construct of society.... so yeah. when they do their thing where they jaunt aroudn the world at that one moment in time explaining 10 things that are all happening at once (usually while clark kent and the superman are playing their cover of "we're gonna rock around the clock tonight!") man, like i said.... it's genius porn. dont even dip your toe into the book via pirated .pdf or something. just acquire it and be wary of reading it in public because people will think you're a lunatic for enjoying yourself so ostentatiously in public when you're supposed to be just one of countless miserable Caller Bobs in transit.

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One of the things I find interesting is that their go-to insults for guys they don't like are "neckbeard" and "virgin," and as anyone who went through high school can tell you, "you're ugly and can't get laid" is the go-to insult of the social haves for the social have-nots, which makes one wonder who's really oppressing whom here.


my favorite one that the kids (on 4chan) use ad nauseum/infinitum nowadays is "autist."

so let me get this straight, because i have the boundless audacity to post a few paragraphs about something i care about / am-interested-in and you are not, clearly i live in my own little fantasy world where only i exist because i didnt take the time to stop and consider your feelings about what i might or might not say, and therefore if i was a normal balanced well-adjusted persion LIVING IN REALITY i would have not indulged myself in publicly writing something that anyone else might not enjoy because, obviously, living in civilization/society is a series of compromises that begins and ends with "ooh, i'd better act in a way that other people like because if i don't they might accuse me of being an autistic person who clearly lives in their own world populated by only themselves thanks to their brazen disregard for anything else but the self"

so yeah CH, i believe you spoke some clever term about the state of perpetual irony that our pop/culture lives in nowadays.... well how fucking ironic is it that these people who point at you and yell out AUTIST are accusing *you* of living in your own personal dream world because you're not stopping to do what other people expect of you, careful to adhere to every whim and desire of any/every-one else because obviously you have to be completely selfless in today's world lest you risk offending/annoying someone.

don't those people live in their own little dream world where everyone else has to go out of their way to consider THEIR feelings/preferences/desires/etc? i mean welcome to the real world, kiddo..... 98% of people you talk to are just waiting for their turn to talk, and there will be at least undertones of "shut up and be more like me" and thus anyone who has an un/realistic expectation of everyone else acting in only such a way that you/the-group/echo-chamber ideally desires is truly the fucking idiot living in an autistic paradise.

because i believe when i reach total enlightenment i will speak only in big lebowski quotes, there is indeed a quote that sums up this phenomenon with a veritable fucking bow and ribbon on top --- "the world doesn't start and stop at your convenience you miserable piece of shit" - walter sobchak, nailing it especially with the "miserable piece of shit" part.

anyways, yeah, TL;DR rah rah rah sooooo AUTISM HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CH and sini on the mark with respect to the Going Viral stuff. I feel like another symptom of this trend is a near complete reliance on purely referential humor. I've pretty much avoided Fallon like the plague since he first got Late Night, but to the extent that I have encountered some of the "viral" clips, nearly all of them center around some wacky guest appearance and/or meme appropriation. Jimmy's interviewing Mark-Paul Gossalear in the character of Zack Morris! Jimmy's rapping and dancing with Michelle Obama and Will Smith! OGFWGKTA are performing on Fallon! Even most of the positive media onslaught from the first week of the show, when not praising Fallon's goshdarn enthusiasm or the fact that he has The Roots as his band (edgy!), was all about those guest appearances. Lohan! Ferrell! Timberlake! Cyrus!

This might be a bit unfair since pretty much all of the late shows can't help but engage in that kind of comedy and I would be lying if I said it was never funny. But with Fallon, it seems like that's all there is, aside from how excited he is to be there. It's like the Community of late night shows.


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