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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:46 pm 
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Bears are reportedly close with DJ Williams. Like it if he can stay healthy. Big if.


Briggs, Williams, Bostic/Shea. Not horrible.


Assuming they sign Williams, the LB corp is essentially set for next season (for good or bad).


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I don't think they are doing this to appease Marty.
Do you actively choose to misunderstand what I say?


Very often, you're horrible at explaining things. So instead of asking a ton of follow up questions that you choose to run off in an entirely different tangent, I just guess at what you mean. This is your fault I'm this way.
So it's unintentional. I guess that is better.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Bears are reportedly close with DJ Williams. Like it if he can stay healthy. Big if.


Briggs, Williams, Bostic/Shea. Not horrible.


Assuming they sign Williams, the LB corp is essentially set for next season (for good or bad).

That's a bad linebacking unit. Briggs will be 34, Williams 32, and Bostic/Shea have no idea what they're doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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I concur. I hope they view him as insurance and liable to be cut in training camp. Can you use a wheelchair on the field? A motorized one?

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Bears are reportedly close with DJ Williams. Like it if he can stay healthy. Big if.


Briggs, Williams, Bostic/Shea. Not horrible.


Assuming they sign Williams, the LB corp is essentially set for next season (for good or bad).

That's a bad linebacking unit. Briggs will be 34, Williams 32, and Bostic/Shea have no idea what they're doing.


There's potential upside in the Bostic/Shea battle IF one of them wins the job and runs with it, but both are playing new positions from last year and there's no guarantee in either adjusting (probably more true in Shea's case). I don't have much worry with getting another season out of Briggs. Williams is a legitmate concern given that he has barely played in the last 2 seasons. There is youth at in this group so they have a few building blocks if things fall in their favor. Barring something unexpected though, they have 5 LB's (including K.Greene) on the roster once Williams re-ups.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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I concur. I hope they view him as insurance and liable to be cut in training camp. Can you use a wheelchair on the field? A motorized one?


Are you referring to Williams? If they resign him, he's the likely staring MLB, and I don't think there's much competition for that job. That could be ok for a year, but there's no reason to think a depenedable backup won't be needed at some point.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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I like Bennett but I'm not sure that he's worth $8.5 million.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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I've grown to give old players 0% trust. After 10 years of taking hits, shoveling in HGH, shooting up Toradol and being old I think they burn out more so than fade away.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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I've grown to give old players 0% trust. After 10 years of taking hits, shoveling in HGH, shooting up Toradol and being old I think they burn out more so than fade away.


It's rolling the dice when you're depending on players past 30 (outside of the QB spot primarily). Sometimes, players hit the end quickly. The Bears offensive line after the Super Bowl season faded fast. Peppers appears to be nearly done. Tillman couldn't finish a game last season before his injury knocked him out for the season. Briggs missed most (or around 1/2) of 2013 and Williams hasn't played much now for 2 seasons. There are warning signs with both, but the defense has too many holes to fill in one off-season. Even a great draft won't produce more than 3 starters realistically and free agency will fill a few of their holes, but they are going to depend on a few of these guys for at least another season. At this time next year, LB could be a top need for the Bears.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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It's rolling the dice when you're depending on players past 30 (outside of the QB spot primarily). Sometimes, players hit the end quickly. The Bears offensive line after the Super Bowl season faded fast. Peppers appears to be nearly done. Tillman couldn't finish a game last season before his injury knocked him out for the season. Briggs missed most (or around 1/2) of 2013 and Williams hasn't played much now for 2 seasons. There are warning signs with both, but the defense has too many holes to fill in one off-season. Even a great draft won't produce more than 3 starters realistically and free agency will fill a few of their holes, but they are going to depend on a few of these guys for at least another season. At this time next year, LB could be a top need for the Bears.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Wow, he took less. Seems the Bears never had a chance.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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The Peppers contract is killing the Bears. The day the Bears signed him I said that it was stupid money & would come back to haunt the Bears & here we are. I wanted Bennett, but what I said then about Peppers applies now as well. The Bears cant really afford to throw too much money at one player because they have so many needs to fill.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Wow, he took less. Seems the Bears never had a chance.

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DE Michael Bennett takes less to stay in Seattle, via a four-year, $28.5 million contract http://wp.me/p14QSB-9qJ6


Seattle has more rabid fans. There I said it!

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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J Pep on the block.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Who in the hell is going to trade for him when they know he is getting cut?


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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I think signing Martys Brother is a slam dunk. They will no doubt sign one of the top Safeties too.

:lol:

I apologize for doubting you Scorehead. You would think I'd learn my lesson by now when it comes to your uncanny prognostication abilities.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Michael Bush cut.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Source: #Bears are now targeting #Raiders star defensive end Lamarr Houston after missing out on Michael Bennett. They are pushing hard

Interesting. More upside being only 26. But have to wonder why a team flush with cap space yet devoid of talent is willing to let him go.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Source: #Bears are now targeting #Raiders star defensive end Lamarr Houston after missing out on Michael Bennett. They are pushing hard

Interesting. More upside being only 26. But have to wonder why a team flush with cap space yet devoid of talent is willing to let him go.


It's the Raiders.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Source: #Bears are now targeting #Raiders star defensive end Lamarr Houston after missing out on Michael Bennett. They are pushing hard

Interesting. More upside being only 26. But have to wonder why a team flush with cap space yet devoid of talent is willing to let him go.

It's the Raiders, so you can't really consider that. There's a great chance McKenzie was made stupid by osmosis the minute he entered Raiders headquarters and still believes they need to shed salary despite having like 70 fuckin million in cap space or whatever absurd number it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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J Pep on the block.


The worst contract ever for the Bears. Get the hell off of my football team.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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J Pep on the block.


The worst contract ever for the Bears. Get the hell off of my football team.


Wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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J Pep on the block.


The worst contract ever for the Bears. Get the hell off of my football team.


Wrong.


I guess the Cutler contract could be worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Chester Taylor, Michael Bush, Marion Barber, Brandon Manumaluena...all worse than Peppers. We know you hate big eared black men, but Peppers was an absolutely dominant force his first couple years on the Bears.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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Chester Taylor, Michael Bush, Marion Barber, Brandon Manumaluena...all worse than Peppers. We know you hate big eared black men, but Peppers was an absolutely dominant force his first couple years on the Bears.


Those guys didn't make $14 million per year & have as big of an impact on the cap as Peppers contract does. Did the Bears win the Super Bowl with Peppers & I missed it? I will forever be of the opinion that the Bears made a huge mistake giving one player as much money as they gave to Peppers, when they had so many positions that needed to be upgraded. I still cant believe that Phillips & the McLaskeys approved his contract.

You are correct. Big ears look silly.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Offseason
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And so he most likely won’t be traded, and he undoubtedly will be cut. And that six-year, $84 million contract will end up being a four-year, $53.5 million package.

Average 13.375M salary. Don't think overall you can say it was a good deal.


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Johnson to Bucs, 5/$43.5M.

Bennett took a big price cut.


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Who in the hell is going to trade for him when they know he is getting cut?
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