That kid hates baseball and is being forced to play, which is always a recipe for success

Probably going to come down to the tramp stamp. Ill keep researching.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Tons of sweeping, overly general statements there, RogersParkBernSTINE.

Thanks for taking one for the team Rogue.

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins

RPB, how do you know so much about this, you sure seem damn sure that you are right in all of your responses?

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins

My goal for both my children is to reach their individual potential with anything they enjoy, athletic and academic. There's no need for us to move out of the Midwest to be competitive. We practice and train indoors once the weather is bad. Besides, you can't reasonably play baseball games 12 months out of the year because your arm would die.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

He was trying to walk. Old School Frank obviously doesn't appreciate the modern metric of OBP.

_________________
Don't take it personally.

There's a fine line between helping your kid with an activity he or she enjoys and becoming a mini-Marv Marinovich. I know a guy whose dad took him out to California from Park Ridge to play ball. The kid did make the big leagues so maybe it was worth it.

_________________
Don't take it personally.

These are my opinions based on five years of in house play, both softball and baseball. I am ok if you disagree.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

There's plenty of fucking time to talk about it when it's going on, even on the radio broadcast. There's so little action in a baseball game, that a baseball broadcast is essentially 3 hours of talking baseball.

No need to ruin sports talk with that bullshit too.

_________________
You can't see me because of internet.

The landowner effectively owns part shares in millions of part-time slaves called, "taxpayers." -Roy L
A Personal Relationship with Jesus?

I'm calling bullshit on this entire post. EVERY youth sport has teams filled with kids & parents trying "to will their children to greatness like an USSR-Era Olympic Trainer", if that's how you see it.

But question is this: Ever heard of AAU basketball? 8-13yr old football teams traveling down south to play in tournaments? Spaulding, Bernstein & others talking biddy hockey)? Soccer? Golf or tennis? Where in this country are there not youth sports dominated by elite level "travel" programs/

Just because it's baseball, the same easy, tired, whorish & wrong arguments come out. Repeat them enough (like Fox News) and a substantial (lazy) percentage will accept them as gospel. What was good for baseball in the 30's, 40's & 50's (with higher level Pony, American Legion ball, etc.) and has been duplicated in every other sport but now is just "bad" for baseball. Why? Because YOU say so. Perhaps your wrongheaded position is in part because you do not understand, nor appreciate the difference between travel & elite level travel ball.

Elite level teams may have (for practical legal reasons) tryouts, but trust me, those teams are pre-selected. Frankly, with rare exceptions it's fairly clear by the age of 8,9-10 who has it and who doesn't. There is very little in common with "elite" level teams and in house or 80% of the glorified "travel" programs. There is no way that a regular travel team (think any team with Alsip, Palos, Plainfield, Tinley Park, Oak Forest or Homer Glen in their name) will win more than 10% of its games vs. true elite level travel teams. One level actually plays baseball, the others give the parents to come to the park, drink, hand out snacks and socialize.

That having been said, travel ball is still seemingly fun for the kids, definitely better than in-house, and whatever else those parents make of it. However, the state of baseball is "fucked" more often because certain helicopter parents take the fun out of the (non-scored) games, wet nurse their kids into false beliefs about their talent and then sour on the game with their less talented kids when they aren't qualified to move up the ladder. (or get embarrassed by elite teams)

But that's just my opinion.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I am not trying to get my kid to the big leagues. I am much more worried about getting into a good college. That aside, I view baseball as one of the best ways to build a tight bond between me and my son. We go to games together, we watch games every night, and we play catch regularly. One benefit of travel ball is that we take road trips, to the Dells, Louisville, and Des Moines in the past year and spend time together. I have built a very close bond with my son because we both love baseball. Therefore, regardless with what happens, we both win.

I'll defer to folks on a lot of topics, but when it comes to baseball, it is one of my passions. Ok to disagree, but I am coming from an informed perspective.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

RR wow. Well said.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

So Matt and Floyd both believe that local sports radio should not talk baseball during baseball season when theres 2 local pro sports teams but NFL talk is ok 5 months away from kickoff. Wow.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Matt just really hates baseball. Nothing to see here.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I tune in this time of year specifically for baseball talk. Something new everyday, but then again, I am a baseball junkie.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

There's actually far less action in a football game anyway. Something like 8-10 actual minutes during a 3 hour game. But football fans love commercials. They wait all year to excitedly analyze them the day after the Super Bowl.

_________________
Don't take it personally.

No.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

RPB, there are so many levels of wrong here it's almost frightening. My son's league didn't suck. Actually we've won the state tournament 3x in the last 6 years and finished 2nd twice. However, the in house games generally blew. Dennis isn't that far off from what I've seen in 3 different leagues in the last 10 years, there isn't real baseball being played in most in house little league games. To throw multiple no hitters, or lead your league in homers in an in house league isn't a big deal.

To legitimately have hope of getting better, kids now have to play travel ball. The levels of competition are night and day different. (and I'm not even talking elite level ball that starts at 9-10 years old)

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

No...and for so many reasons

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No what? That's an absolute fact.

_________________
Don't take it personally.

He's actually pretty dead on. Figure 100/120 plays per game @ on average a generous 6 seconds per play - 600/720 seconds (10-12 minutes). And at least 12-18 of those plays are spiking the ball, punting, and touchbacks.

Hell, the sheeple that blindly follow the NFL watch the combine & draft which have even less action. But don't seem to notice.

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I'm talking about the stupid strawman that football fans watch the Super Bowl for the commercials.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

_________________
There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Beyond the competitiveness of the games, there are another differences. Travel teams have pretty solid coaches, while in house coaching is often suspect. Also, travel teams practices together in the off season even renting out facilities while the weather is bad. In house teams have a couple of spring practices, and then generally just play games. They might mix in a practice here and there, but it is not an emphasis. Travel is about teaching skills and various aspects of the game like holding runners on, double plays, hitting cut off men, etc.

Since I want my son to progress as a player, travel is a better option.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

He said your kid's program is deluding itself and is about a half step above a park district league.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I don't understand the motivation behind this criticism. The whole "My sport is better than your sport because __________" is the epitome of stupid sports talk.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Florida/Arizona/California teams are saying the same thing about your elite program

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Actually no, there's no generalizations there. Denis generalized and I said his experience is not the same as everyone else's.

Then I gave my personal opinion and labeled it as such.

The last statement is true of some parents, I didnt say all.

Grobber coming on to talk Hawkey before transition.

_________________
Flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami