That's not true. The Bulls could have worked out a sign and trade to get Melo IF he wanted to come. Considering that he told them he wanted Taj on the team a sign and trade was his only option IF he wanted all of his money.

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To continue to argue about supporting cast is lunacy because the point has been validated by the free agent season there is a lot of roster engineering going on and the idea of give Melo the ball and you will win a championship was never stated by Goff. He stated that the team would be better if the ball was in Anthony's hands as opposed to Jeremy Lin. That point has pretty much been proven. Interesting is that you never argue the merits of the ball being in Jeremy Lins hands. It's a lot easier to count championship s and attach labels of winning and losing. Regardless the guy is considered a top five player as evidenced by the interest in him. The people who fawn ed over Lin have amnesia as he is not even a starter.

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I think if he could get his money he let's Taj Gibson roll I can't believe that he would let Taj Gibson be deal killer. The Knicks will be terrible next year

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The Bulls can trade him for second round pick to free up money. KNICKS not interested in sign and trade.

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4 yrs and 72 million is too low

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He wanted the 5th year. The Bulls couldn't give him the 5th year. His wife probably played a role in it. What happened with LeBron in Cleveland probably did too.

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Maybe so. That's why a sign and trade was going to be the route the Bulls went. BTW every team says that they aren't interested in a sign and trade. It's nothing more than posturing.

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depends on what's being traded. I'm sure if a top 15 pick or a starter were offered they would consider a trade. Have the Bulls offered Taj Gibson I doubt it. Their history has been to over value role players. People who blame the guy for turning down a low ball offer are fools. The Lakers offer was significantly greater than the Bulls. If the Bulls offered was similar I think he takes it

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I don't believe that you can blame the Bulls for Melo staying in NY. He wanted to cash in and he went into all of this knowing no other team could give him the 5th year and extra $30M. Winning wasn't his top priority.

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Well how long until he tries force a trade from the Knicks?

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I think the forcing trade angle is being stupidly overblown. NY is gonna go into next summer with a ton of cap room and unless they strike out completely it will be a minimum of two seasons before we hear noise from Melo.

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At that point he wouldn't be worth a lot. His game would be on the decline by then.

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The Carmelo Anthony bashing is misguided. Successful franchises want the guy. The Knicks don't offer the guy that amount of money if he is the loser often portrayed. He suits up every night and has never thrown any of teammates under the bus publicly. If he makes a play for the money then that's his preferance. If the Bulls wanted him they should have come up with the max. that they could have offered within a 4 yr pd. They didnt. They were 24 million under the maximum they could have offered and people are criticizing him for not taking it. Gordon Hayward just accepted an offer sheet to play for 2 million less than what the Bulls are offering Carmelo Anthony. There was a problem with the Bulls offer

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You're talking 12 months. Not a big difference between then and now.

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I thought 24 months was 2 years.

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Yeah. I thought you meant by next summer when they have a chance to be good. Melo's game will age well though.

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Anthony will be remembered in the same breath as Barkley, Malone, Ewing, and Iverson if he goes back to NY.

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I'm not sure that's an insult, although i get your point.

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I don't agree. Those guys wanted to win a championship. Barkley almost willed the Suns to beat the Bulls.

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Yeah I mean in the short term he'll be ridiculed for choosing the money over wins, but in the long term it'll be somewhat similar to the way we remember the guys I mentioned. To be fair though the difference between 129 million vs whatever the Bulls can do is obviously huge. Then again I'm sure he's got 100 million + in earnings thus far, but whatever it's his call.

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The Bulls gave a save face offer for a guy they supposedly wanted. It's not surprising that their offer was significantly lower than all the other teams in consideration. If the Lakers were in a similar position they would dump almost anyone to get the guy they want. He wants to win but not if he has to give up 60 million to do it. The Bulls should have offered the max for 4 yrs. Their offer is insulting for a guy they want. If they part with Gibson for nothing the deal could work if you're talking max for 4yrs. They are unwilling to do it because Gibson is considered to be a core guy.

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Everything you say is reasonable except you have to account for reports that Anthony himself wanted Taj in place like others have said. I mean the guy was part of the recruiting team. Bulls could have done more if NYK wanted to play ball on a sign and trade, but too many things are/were needed to make that work: Melo wanting to come here via sign and trade, and Phil's willingness to do it. Melo holds little to no leverage in this case since he doesn't want to sign outright with Chicago

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If they could have maxed him out over 4 yrs it would have been interesting. I don't buy the notion that he played the Bulls. He was going to get his money from the Knicks regardless. When he opted out it was known that the Knicks were going to max him out. I think the Bulls could have been more creative. Houston has a max offer on the table for the much maligned Chris Bosh an offer that is 15-16 more than what the Bulls are offering yet Melo is criticized for not wanting to win.

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I also don't think he played the Bulls. The problem for Melo is Phil has the power to tie Melo getting paid to playing for the Knicks - he's under no obligation to sign Anthony to big money then trade him to his preferred destination. Like you said it would have been interesting if the Bulls were able to match LAs offer. Would Melo have jumped?

I agree that Houston has been more creative, perhaps even a step ahead of the Bulls. Especially with the Harden acquisition.

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It's just easy to play the he doesn't want to win card. There is not a player in the NBA that would leave 60 million on the table. I don't believe he would have jumped if the Bulls would have matched LA. That fifth yr for a guy 34 is definitely a wild card

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The point is that he is to be judged on his results. He has now chosen New York twice. Pay no attention to the details of any contracts. It no longer matters. His supporting cast isn't good is no longer a valid excuse.

You are just coming off as a guy that will apologize for Anthony no matter what. We don't need any more validation on his thoughts on New York. We got them. He either thinks he can win a title there, or he doesn't care that he'll never win a title there.

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So he is supposed to agree to a terrible contract so that he can mesh with your notion of what a winner should be. Which NBA Player would leave 60 million on the table? I will hangup and listen for my answer.

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Your ability to use logic leaves a lot to be desired. The Bulls are asking him to accept a contract that is 30 million less than the Knicks and that is if you remove the 5th yr. That contract offer was insulting. You are coming off as a guy that will criticize him no matter what.

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Why is this so hard to understand? Melo wanted the Bulls to keep Taj and that is why he was apart of the recruiting team. Melo understood that unless there was a sign and trade or they dumped Gibson he wouldn't get the $96M a team like LA could offer. They didn't offer him a contract. He understood his options. Fact is he didn't want the 4 year deal. He wanted the security of $129M. There was nothing anyone could do about that. Security was the same reason he didn't take a contract similar to Miami's Big 3 when his rookie deal expired.

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