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Chris Sale 71%  71%  [ 29 ]
Starlin Castro 29%  29%  [ 12 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Sale or Starlin?
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And so would you if I told you Sale would never play on one. Wouldnt you?

I want them to Win a World Series. Maybe its different after your team wins one (couldnt tell ya!)



No. I don't really expect Sale to pitch in a World Series for the White Sox. They've been in one in my lifetime. I think it's pretty unrealistic to expect them to suddenly win pennants in bunches, no matter how much of a Really Smart Guy Rick Hahn might be.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
And so would you if I told you Sale would never play on one. Wouldnt you?

I want them to Win a World Series. Maybe its different after your team wins one (couldnt tell ya!)



No. I don't really expect Sale to pitch in a World Series for the White Sox. They've been in one in my lifetime. I think it's pretty unrealistic to expect them to suddenly win pennants in bunches, no matter how much of a Really Smart Guy Rick Hahn might be.

Were getting into a philosophical discussion now, but do you want the White Sox to win the World Series?

If I told you they wont win one in the next 15 years for sure would that bother you?

I mean, isnt it possible to want something that's not guaranteed?

I would think a guy how loves horseracing would understand this kind of thing


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
And so would you if I told you Sale would never play on one. Wouldnt you?

I want them to Win a World Series. Maybe its different after your team wins one (couldnt tell ya!)



No. I don't really expect Sale to pitch in a World Series for the White Sox. They've been in one in my lifetime. I think it's pretty unrealistic to expect them to suddenly win pennants in bunches, no matter how much of a Really Smart Guy Rick Hahn might be.

Were getting into a philosophical discussion now, but do you want the White Sox to win the World Series?

If I told you they wont win one in the next 15 years for sure would that bother you?

I mean, isnt it possible to want something that's not guaranteed?

I would think a guy how loves horseracing would understand this kind of thing


I don't expect the Sox to win a World Series in the next 15 years. Sure, I'll be happy if they do. But before they won in 2005 I almost didn't believe they could at all. I'm not going to be surprised or disappointed if they don't win another one in my lifetime. I don't think winning a World Series is a reasonable expectation for anyone but a Yankees fan, or maybe a Cardinals fan. Those teams have done it again and again. If you look at everyone else, five or six in the team's history- spread out over 100 years- isn't bad.

It's really telling that you listed four really great players and none of them has won a World Series. I'm sure at least a couple of them will. Maybe all of them. But they might do it at the end of a career when they aren't really contributing. Like a 35 year old Longoria coming off consecutive .250 years getting traded to the Yankees where he hits .310 over 400 at-bats and helps the Yankess to yet another title.

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Like the "Moneyball draft" that yielded such greats as Nick Swisher and Mark Teahen. I just don't believe in hyping up prospects.

Swisher and Teahen were never Top 10 prospects. Swisher was 24th at best and Teahen was 84th at best.

Prospects that are unanimously ranked as Top 10 Prospects while they are in the high minors generally don't "bust" out. These are the guys that have continuously proven themselves to knowledgeable baseball minds over the course of their professional careers, and are being rated upon track records as well as potential impact on the majors within a year or two at most.

This is the difference between let's say...Bryant and Buxton.

Buxton has always been the higher rated prospect...but no one would say he is more of a sure thing than Bryant.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
And so would you if I told you Sale would never play on one. Wouldnt you?

I want them to Win a World Series. Maybe its different after your team wins one (couldnt tell ya!)



No. I don't really expect Sale to pitch in a World Series for the White Sox. They've been in one in my lifetime. I think it's pretty unrealistic to expect them to suddenly win pennants in bunches, no matter how much of a Really Smart Guy Rick Hahn might be.

Were getting into a philosophical discussion now, but do you want the White Sox to win the World Series?

If I told you they wont win one in the next 15 years for sure would that bother you?

I mean, isnt it possible to want something that's not guaranteed?

I would think a guy how loves horseracing would understand this kind of thing


I don't expect the Sox to win a World Series in the next 15 years. Sure, I'll be happy if they do. But before they won in 2005 I almost didn't believe they could at all. I'm not going to be surprised or disappointed if they don't win another one in my lifetime. I don't think winning a World Series is a reasonable expectation for anyone but a Yankees fan, or maybe a Cardinals fan. Those teams have done it again and again. If you look at everyone else, five or six in the team's history- spread out over 100 years- isn't bad.

I dont expect to win one. I want to though.

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It's really telling that you listed four really great players and none of them has won a World Series. .

Not really. I listed young recent guys.

Could have easily been Chipper Jones, Derek Jeter etc.

One of those guys I listed will probably win one this year


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rogers park bryan wrote:
One of those guys I listed will probably win one this year



I'd bet against that.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One of those guys I listed will probably win one this year



I'd bet against that.

Well its a 30-4 shot.

But im sure you saw my thread about my belief it will come from the West. (Angels or Dodgers would not shock me)


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Reynolds with a 2 run homer. :cheers:

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Reynolds with a 2 run homer. :cheers:


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Reynolds with a 2 run homer. :cheers:


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I need to really apologize to Mr. Reynolds for my earlier post, he has not hit 2 (Two) homers today.

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