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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:34 am 
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NFL QB's starting to be as overpaid as MLB pitchers.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:36 am 
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I doubt that he will last 3 years before they cut him.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:39 am 
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I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal.
Andy Dalton is younger and better though.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:42 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal.
Andy Dalton is younger and better though.


You won't say that after this year.

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@FakeSportsCentr: Adam Schefter reporting the majority of Andy Dalton's $115 million is being paid by the Steelers

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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal.
Andy Dalton is younger and better though.


You won't say that after this year.
If Jay Cutler isn't significantly better than Andy Dalton next year then we have a serious problem.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Peoria Matt wrote:
I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal.
Andy Dalton is younger and better though.


You won't say that after this year.
If Jay Cutler isn't significantly better than Andy Dalton next year then we have a serious problem.

3 of Cutler's last 4 years he's had a higher rating than Dalton's average.

They're about equal


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Peoria Matt wrote:
I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal.
Andy Dalton is younger and better though.


You won't say that after this year.
If Jay Cutler isn't significantly better than Andy Dalton next year then we have a serious problem.


He's going to win a SB. I'll say that is significantly better. I believe he could even be MVP. Everything has come together for him and the Bears.

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3 of Cutler's last 4 years he's had a higher rating than Dalton's average.

They're about equal
That seems like a strange statistic.

I think Dalton has been better than Cutler the past 2 years. I may be putting durability into that equation too and team success.

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Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots.

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Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots.


He'll demand that he do it again.

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Nas wrote:
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Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots.


He'll demand that he do it again.


Well ANYONE could be an MVP with the supporting cast that he has...

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Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots.
I heard the same stuff before Cutler ever played a game for the Bears.

Maybe this is the year it finally happens!

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We understood that losing Orton hurt.

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For fucks sake , with all this unwarranted Cutler love and high expectations youda thought Theo drafted him.

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For fucks sake , with all this unwarranted Cutler love and Hugh expectations youda thought Theo drafted him.


I was saving a seat on the SB bandwagon for you but I guess you don't want it.

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if i am reading the reports right... only $18 M is guarenteed (what he will amke this year)... after this year it becomes a year to year deal which means he can be cut

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Dalton receives a signing bonus of $12 million and a roster bonus in three days of $5 million. That's a total of $17 million out of the gates. Coupled with his $986,000 base salary (which isn't guaranteed as a legal matter but it is as a practical matter), Dalton will make $18 million in the first year of the deal.

Then, on the third day of the 2015 league year in March, Dalton earns a $4 million roster bonus. He also has a $3 million non-guaranteed base salary in 2015. That's $25 million over two years.

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The rest of the base deal is simple. In addition to annual workout bonuses of $200,000, Dalton has base salaries of $10.5 million in 2016, $13.1 million in 2017, $13.7 million in 2018, $16 million in 2019, and $17.5 million in 2020.
The deal also contains escalators tied to the Bengals' playoff performances. (Cincinnati is 0-3 under Dalton.) Reaching the divisional round of the postseason earns him an additional $1 million for each remaining year; reaching the conference championship, another $500,000; for a Super Bowl win, another $1.5 million.

Hot take coming through: Andy Dalton's not going to win the next six Super Bowls, so $115 million's an imaginary figure. But what is the deal actually worth in real-world numbers? The Bengals essentially have their choice of the following deals. (Numbers are without potential playoff escalators, and include the upcoming final season on Dalton's last contract.)

Two years, $25 million.
Three years, $35.7 million
Four years, $49 million.
Five years, $62.9 million.
Six years, $79.1 million.
Seven years, $96.8 million.




so unless he is absolutely miserable this year it makes sense to keep him for $8M next year.... but after year 2 he could easily be cut. very team friendly as far as QB's go.... no where near Jay's $56M guarenteed


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He would have to be Ryan Leaf awful in order for this to be anything less than a 2 year deal.

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I suddenly don't feel as good about the Cutler deal.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:20 pm 
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Peoria Matt wrote:
I suddenly don't feel as good about Jay's contract.


You mean you don't like the fact that he is virtually guaranteed $50M+ for 3 years and that this won't be shorter than a 4 year deal? Try to keep a positive mental attitude.

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Daulton got 6-96 ...with up to 115 million in playoff incentive .


Cutler n Daulton are real similar ...Daulton is slightly better but much younger.
But if Cincy wants to dump him in2 years they can ..17 million is guaranteed

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Nas wrote:
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I suddenly don't feel as good about Jay's contract.


You mean you don't like the fact that he is virtually guaranteed $50M+ for 3 years and that this won't be shorter than a 4 year deal? Try to keep a positive mental attitude.


Sorry.

I guess I'm still waiting for 'Melo to show up.


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I just looked @ daultons stats...he's more than slightly better than Cutler...he's substantialy better.

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So basically it really is:

Dalton two years 25 mil.

Cutler three years 54 mil

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Yes....that sums it up perfectly ...keep in mind ...Trestmans goal is to make Cutty improve to 58-59% On completions....n 2-1 TD-TO ratio...that IS Andy Daulton.

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