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IS HE TELLING THE TRUTH?
YES 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
NO 86%  86%  [ 32 ]
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Plausible deniability.


When she was dragged unconscious off of the elevator, Goodell thought she had tripped over being held over heels in love.

Two things:

His body language screamed don't believe me

How did he think she ended up KO'd in the first place?

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I think it is going to come down to the NFL's and Ravens' incompetence (willful ignorance) in not viewing the tape. It's hard to imagine Goodell giving only a 2-game suspension if he had. Florio makes a good case:

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So now after 24 hours Goodell does not have to be fired or hanged. Go figure.

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So now after 24 hours Goodell does not have to be fired or hanged. Go figure.


He should be hanged, but he can keep his job.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Plausible deniability.


When she was dragged unconscious off of the elevator, Goodell thought she had tripped over being held over heels in love.

Two things:

His body language screamed don't believe me

How did he think she ended up KO'd in the first place?


Yep. The lady interviewing him stared directly into his eyes with her own big blue eyes when asking the questions. That made him uncomfortable. And you can tell he was lying.
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Florio likes his access to NFL people. He's just better at talking out his ass on this subject than the commissioner. Which as much as anything else is reason enough, from a "best for business" standpoint, to relieve him of his duties (whatever the hell Roger thinks they are) by the end of the year.

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Florio is wrong. Mortinson and others were given a description of the video months ago from NFL officials. Left upper cut, hit the rail. Knocked out cold. That's what they reported way back. And that's what the video shows. So somebody in the NFL office saw it for sure. That's a fact. And if one person saw it, it means Goodell must have seen it.
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Florio is wrong. Mortinson and others were given a description of the video months ago from NFL officials. Left upper cut, hit the rail. Knocked out cold. That's what they reported way back. And that's what the video shows. So somebody in the NFL office saw it for sure. That's a fact. And if one person saw it, it means Goodell must have seen it.

That was the worst part of that interview. Someone is obviously lying, and the CBS reporter didn't even bring up this point. Either the NFL officials who spoke to reporters a couple months ago are lying, or Goodell is lying. Which one is it?

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Florio writes a lot of dumb stuff but he's an excellent shit stirrer. He lives for these types of controversies. This is when PFT is at it's best.
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He's lying for sure just like the Green Bay head coach was lying when he said it wasn't intentional that they never threw the ball at Richard Sherman, it just worked out that way.

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Roger has really let this issue get above him. Here come the protests!

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Hussra wrote:
Maybe I've missed it, but given Ray Rice's short stature and aggressive running style, why isn't there more discussion of Rice's misbehaviour possibly being due to concussive/sub-concussive hits.

http://www.ironneck.net/concussive-blow ... dangerous/

I wonder if Barry Sanders, another shorter running back, sudden retirement back in the day was motivated by similar concerns.



No, Barry Sanders retired because he got sick and tired of playing for the Lions who in his 10 year career never once drafted an offensive lineman in the first round. Actually, that's not entirely true...they drafted some guy named Willie Roaf, but traded him on draft day for Pat Swilling.

As the world's biggest Barry Sanders fan (I "discovered" him when I was a freshman at Oklahoma in the fall of 88 and I decided to skip the OU games to watch OSU instead) I suffered through all 10 of those seasons. I was excited for Barry's contract to end so he could be a FA and go to a good team, but instead he re signed with the Lions and then a year later decided to retire. If he would've just not signed that 7 year deal and went to FA I wonder how things would've turned out differently.

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Douchebag wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Florio is wrong. Mortinson and others were given a description of the video months ago from NFL officials. Left upper cut, hit the rail. Knocked out cold. That's what they reported way back. And that's what the video shows. So somebody in the NFL office saw it for sure. That's a fact. And if one person saw it, it means Goodell must have seen it.

That was the worst part of that interview. Someone is obviously lying, and the CBS reporter didn't even bring up this point. Either the NFL officials who spoke to reporters a couple months ago are lying, or Goodell is lying. Which one is it?



Goodell.

He was diverting with almost every answer. It was tough to watch him try and pull it off.

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This cant get here fast enough for Roger

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Sounds like ol' Roger was 100% lying. This is not good.

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Uh oh...

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Scorehead wrote:
Uh oh...


"Uh oh" is right, sister ...

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This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.

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This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?

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Douchebag wrote:
This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?
Theo.

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This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?

Virginia McCaskey

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This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?


Condoleeza Rice. NFL needs to overcompensate.
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Douchebag wrote:
This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?

Reggie Rose
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redskingreg wrote:
Sounds like ol' Roger was 100% lying. This is not good.

For the lazy:
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A new report is calling into question NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s claim that no one in the NFL had seen the infamous Ray Rice video until it was published on Monday.

The Associated Press is reporting that a law enforcement source sent the security camera footage to an NFL executive months ago.

That law enforcement source also played a voicemail from an NFL office number for the Associated Press. In the voicemail, a female voice confirms receiving the video, expresses thanks for sending it, and says, “You’re right. It’s terrible.”

There is one discrepancy in the Associated Press report: Although the AP says the video was sent three months ago, the same report says the voicemail was dated April 9, which is five months ago.

The NFL has come in for harsh criticism over the last three days after TMZ published the video showing Rice brutally assaulting his wife in a casino elevator. Goodell has insisted that neither he nor anyone else in the league office saw the video.

The Associated Press is not publishing the name of either the law enforcement source or the NFL official who received the video from that source.

Shortly after the Associated Press report was published, the NFL released a statement saying the league will look into it.
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Scorehead wrote:
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This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?


Allan. Huber. Selig.

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He should have told the truth, admitted he messed up, and fallen back on the fact that he just changed the policy as a result of his bad decision.

How he thinks he'd get away with a blatant lie like that is beyond comprehension.

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Douchebag wrote:
This guy has to be the dumbest mother fucker on Earth. Gary Bettman, you're moving down to 2nd worst commissioner in sports.


Yup. So who is the next commissioner of the NFL?


Condoleeza Rice. NFL needs to overcompensate.


Not with that last name!

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Fire Goodell and strip the league of its non profit status.

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Fire Goodell and strip the league of its non profit status.


Some interns for the House Judiciary Committee are sitting at a Subway discussing that idea over footlong U-cut Seafood Supremes on Hearty Italian at this very moment.

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Looks bad. Why would this tape be coming to the NFL office from a enforcement source that needed to be shielded from having their name out? This the guy that leaked to TMZ as well?

I say the next step is Goodell says some underling could not confirm source so never forwarded it. Or some employee gets a golden parachute to fall on the "I never moved it up the chain" sword.

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