If you knew when you should and shouldn't do most things why were you hit multiple times? You clearly understood right from wrong but sometimes chose to do the wrong thing even though you knew that doing so could result in being hit. If you understand the punishment associated with a behavior but still engage in that behavior then how is that punishment at all effective?

Hitting kids is nothing more than a cop out for parents who aren't skilled enough at parenting & talking to their Children. It's easier to just take a swing at them than to take the time to sit down & talk with them. It's very sad.

It did prevent me from doing things. I was the type of kid that would have been hitting adults if I wasn't aware of what may happen to me if I did. I worked very hard not to get caught. I knew when I should and when I shouldn't do most things.

Today my kids and I went to Giordano's after they got out of school and we saw the Caillou approach on display. A couple had 2 boys between the ages of 4-7 with them. Both kids were banging on the windows with a knife and a fork. Father asked them to stop and both ignored him. Mother tried to take the fork out of the oldest child's hand and he hit her. They continued banging on the glass and pulling the blinds and the youngest boy eventually stood on the table. As much as they asked them to stop both of the kids ignored them and then the parents eventually just let them do what they wanted to do. I can honestly say I've never had that problem with my kids in a restaurant or anywhere else. The kids had absolutely no respect for them.

I You're hurting mommy!"

It doesn't hurt to have that form of discipline in your tool box. It is my belief that ONLY saying "Billy stop it! Go to timeout! You're hurting mommy!" is one of the reasons why we see more out of control kids today with absolutely no respect for anyone.

It is a fucking shame that you are laughing at this. I hope you don't beat the crap out of your kids.

In the context of child abuse, it's disturbing. In the context of Harry Kalas intoning "Adrian Peterson has what he calls a 'whooping room'...we know it as the Metrodome," it's fucking hilarious.

Man I'm lucky. My daughter is pretty well behaved and just altering my voice is enough to scare her an let her know its serious. I realize all kids are different but wat you described is being a doormat and kinda funny



Btw, you can be physical without hitting. A grab of the elbow never hurt anybody

That's what a lot of parents are nowadays. Some want to be their friends and others don't seem to care or believe that one day they'll listen or do the right thing. Personally I believe men have it easier. There is something about our voice that seem to let kids know they should stop. I would pop my son with my finger.

The menstrual cycle changes among Hassidic Jewish women was something as well.

My parents beat me on occasion. My mom a few times and my father only once for when I stabbed a kid with a pencil. I'd never do it to my kids. It's cowardly and chickenshit. Like beating a dog. You don't need to resort to violence to get a child to act how you want.

Yup. Try explaining that to someone who would rather crack their kid. If you get to the point where you think that hitting a child is the only solution, then you failed somewhere along the way. If kids are taught morals, ethics, manners, & right & wrong, the thought of hitting your child should never ever even be considered.

It's funny because you're so sure about everything but you're almost always wrong. Thanks for thinking about my children. They're all straight A students and well behaved kids so I'll stick to my approach.

I'm pretty damn sure that I am on the right side of this argument. I'll take the non violent position.
You shouldn't hit your kids...especially if they are straight A students!!!

You can choose to raise your kids the Caillou or any other way and I'll raise my kids the way I have. There isn't anything that will be effective 100% of the time. So far my approach has enabled me to be able to post pictures of smiling kids holding report cards every quarter for the past 6 years. So far my approach has been effective. Their grades and behavior reflect this. I have a good enough feel to know when I need to adjust. Hopefully I won't lose it.

I can't wait to hear what Coach Ditka thinks about this

There are really two debates here:
1) Is spanking ok? Maybe, but it almost certainly is not effective as a long term solution.
2) Is hitting a child with any object ok? No. No chance. There is no justification.

We won't even hit murderers with objects in this country but we think it is ok to hit children with them?

Man I'm lucky. My daughter is pretty well behaved and just altering my voice is enough to scare her an let her know its serious.

Spanking is a long term solution. It's not something you have to do every day or even once a year. The belief that they may get a spanking for doing something bad will eliminate or reduce many of the bad things they consider doing. It makes the "look" or the calling of a name more effective IMO. Spanking isn't abuse. AP abused his 4 year old.

Spanking is a long term solution. It's not something you have to do every day or even once a year. The belief that they may get a spanking for doing something bad will eliminate or reduce many of the bad things they consider doing. It makes the "look" or the calling of a name more effective IMO. Spanking isn't abuse. AP abused his 4 year old.