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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:39 am 
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Time to throw out names. I don't want Harbaugh. Not only is he a tool, he's a bad coach if anyone saw that Monday night game a couple of weeks back against St. Louis. Went for it two times on 4th and short with the lead, when he could have taken the easy points, and came up empty both times while letting St. Louis back in the game.

Here's my short list

Rex or Rob Ryan
Gregg Williams (not a bad pick but has tainted past with bounty scandal in N.O.)
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren (old but still a good pick)
Bill Lazor (Miami's O.C.)
Dave Toub

Any of these guys would be better than Tresshead.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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I like the Toub idea. At least special teams would be good.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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This thread should have been titled "New defensive coordinator search"

The order of firing for the bears is multiple coordinators, head coach, GM. GM and coach are sometimes interchangeable.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Don Shula
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Kenny Williams
Mike Sherman
Jerry Glanville
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I'm fucking serious, moron. And you don't know the slightest thing about Jimmy Page.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Don Shula
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Dan McNeil
Kenny Williams
Mike Sherman
Jerry Glanville
Jason Goff


I'm fucking serious, moron. And you don't know the slightest thing about Jimmy Page.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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That was not a very dignified reply.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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I *do* like Jerry Glanville. At least it'd be entertaining

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Time to throw out names. I don't want Harbaugh. Not only is he a tool, he's a bad coach if anyone saw that Monday night game a couple of weeks back against St. Louis. Went for it two times on 4th and short with the lead, when he could have taken the easy points, and came up empty both times while letting St. Louis back in the game.

Here's my short list

Rex or Rob Ryan
Gregg Williams (not a bad pick but has tainted past with bounty scandal in N.O.)
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren (old but still a good pick)
Bill Lazor (Miami's O.C.)
Dave Toub

Any of these guys would be better than Tresshead.


Jim Harbaugh is a better coach than all of these guys. You have some re-treads on the list too.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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That was not a very dignified reply.


Sure it was. You got my fire and pashun.

Let's reach some consensus here on a new coach. Then we can shove the idea down B&B's throats.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Jim Harbaugh is a better coach than all of these guys. You have some re-treads on the list too.


Uh, no. St. Louis almost caught up with Frisco two weeks ago because of Harbaugh's stupidity. You don't go for it on 4th on short twice with the lead. You take the points. If Harbaugh doesn't have an elementary understanding of this, he's no good.

And, how can we forget, HE LOST TO THE BEARS AT SAN FRAN! First time since '85.

Go back to the film room.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
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Jim Harbaugh is a better coach than all of these guys. You have some re-treads on the list too.


Uh, no. St. Louis almost caught up with Frisco two weeks ago because of Harbaugh's stupidity. You don't go for it on 4th on short twice with the lead. You take the points. If Harbaugh doesn't have an elementary understanding of this, he's no good.

And, how can we forget, HE LOST TO THE BEARS AT SAN FRAN! First time since '85.

Go back to the film room.


So you are judging his coaching skills on 2 games? You might want to review Harbaughs entire body of work. He has been very successful in every coaching position that he has held. He has built winning programs and has won a lot of games. He is exactly what this soft Bears team needs. But unfortunatly the Bears dont hire experienced coaches who have a personality and are outspoken.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Jim Harbaugh is a better coach than all of these guys. You have some re-treads on the list too.


Uh, no. St. Louis almost caught up with Frisco two weeks ago because of Harbaugh's stupidity. You don't go for it on 4th on short twice with the lead. You take the points. If Harbaugh doesn't have an elementary understanding of this, he's no good.

This is completely wrong, and it's not an opinion. Get with the times, man!

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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The word is the players don't like Harbaugh. That's not what we need now.

Either of the Ryan brothers would shake things up, too. I'd prefer Rob Ryan. Hell, I'd take Wade Phillips or even Bum Phillips at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Time to throw out names. I don't want Harbaugh. Not only is he a tool, he's a bad coach if anyone saw that Monday night game a couple of weeks back against St. Louis. Went for it two times on 4th and short with the lead, when he could have taken the easy points, and came up empty both times while letting St. Louis back in the game.

Here's my short list

Rex or Rob Ryan
Gregg Williams (not a bad pick but has tainted past with bounty scandal in N.O.)
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren (old but still a good pick)
Bill Lazor (Miami's O.C.)
Dave Toub

Any of these guys would be better than Tresshead.


you don't want harbaugh...but you want...rex ryan.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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W_Z wrote:
Dignified Rube wrote:
Time to throw out names. I don't want Harbaugh. Not only is he a tool, he's a bad coach if anyone saw that Monday night game a couple of weeks back against St. Louis. Went for it two times on 4th and short with the lead, when he could have taken the easy points, and came up empty both times while letting St. Louis back in the game.

Here's my short list

Rex or Rob Ryan
Gregg Williams (not a bad pick but has tainted past with bounty scandal in N.O.)
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren (old but still a good pick)
Bill Lazor (Miami's O.C.)
Dave Toub

Any of these guys would be better than Tresshead.


you don't want harbaugh...but you want...rex ryan.


Yes, he could fix the defense. Even B&B agreed just yesterday he would be a good pick for a D.C., so why not head coach again with the Bears connection to his Dad?

There was a time not too long ago the Jets were good.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
The word is the players don't like Harbaugh. That's not what we need now.

Either of the Ryan brothers would shake things up, too. I'd prefer Rob Ryan. Hell, I'd take Wade Phillips or even Bum Phillips at this point.

I wasn't talking about your Harbaugh thoughts. I was talking about your antiquated feelings on going for 4th and short.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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The word is the players don't like Harbaugh. That's not what we need now.

Either of the Ryan brothers would shake things up, too. I'd prefer Rob Ryan. Hell, I'd take Wade Phillips or even Bum Phillips at this point.

I wasn't talking about your Harbaugh thoughts. I was talking about your antiquated feelings on going for 4th and short.


It's all relative and situational. With the lead no, you don't do that, if you're behind and need the touchdown, absolutely.


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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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The word is the players don't like Harbaugh. That's not what we need now.

Either of the Ryan brothers would shake things up, too. I'd prefer Rob Ryan. Hell, I'd take Wade Phillips or even Bum Phillips at this point.

I wasn't talking about your Harbaugh thoughts. I was talking about your antiquated feelings on going for 4th and short.


It's all relative and situational. With the lead no, you don't do that, if you're behind and need the touchdown, absolutely.

No, it's not. In 99.9999% of the situations you go for it on 4th and 1. It may even be 100%.

Note that this only applies if you want to increase your mathematical odds of winning the game. If you would like to increase your odds of losing, then you say it is relative and situational.

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 Post subject: Re: New Coach Search
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Dignified Rube wrote:
There was a time not too long ago the Jets were good.


there was a time not too long ago the 49ers were good!


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Dignified Rube wrote:
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Dignified Rube wrote:
The word is the players don't like Harbaugh. That's not what we need now.

Either of the Ryan brothers would shake things up, too. I'd prefer Rob Ryan. Hell, I'd take Wade Phillips or even Bum Phillips at this point.

I wasn't talking about your Harbaugh thoughts. I was talking about your antiquated feelings on going for 4th and short.


It's all relative and situational. With the lead no, you don't do that, if you're behind and need the touchdown, absolutely.

No, it's not. In 99.9999% of the situations you go for it on 4th and 1. It may even be 100%.

Note that this only applies if you want to increase your mathematical odds of winning the game. If you would like to increase your odds of losing, then you say it is relative and situational.


How did the result in the 49ers game help them win? All it did was put St. Louis back in the game with good field position, when if they had kicked the field goal twice, the 49ers would have forced St. Louis to go the length of the field twice. I think you are over estimating the odds of success. They're not even close to what you're saying.


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There was a time not too long ago the Jets were good.


there was a time not too long ago the 49ers were good!


Until the league figured out the read option. Since then Kaepernick has been just ehhh, a regular guy. How good were the 49ers with Harbaugh and Alex Smith?


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How did the result in the 49ers game help them win? All it did was put St. Louis back in the game with good field position, when if they had kicked the field goal twice, the 49ers would have forced St. Louis to go the length of the field twice. I think you are over estimating the odds of success. They're not even close to what you're saying. You're living in a fantasy world where a defense just lies down on 4th and 1, like the Bears would.


http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009 ... blogs&_r=0

Stop living in the past bro.

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How good were the 49ers with Harbaugh and Alex Smith?


they went to the NFC championship?


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The word is the players don't like Harbaugh. That's not what we need now.

Either of the Ryan brothers would shake things up, too. I'd prefer Rob Ryan. Hell, I'd take Wade Phillips or even Bum Phillips at this point.

I wasn't talking about your Harbaugh thoughts. I was talking about your antiquated feelings on going for 4th and short.


It's all relative and situational. With the lead no, you don't do that, if you're behind and need the touchdown, absolutely.

No, it's not. In 99.9999% of the situations you go for it on 4th and 1. It may even be 100%.

Note that this only applies if you want to increase your mathematical odds of winning the game. If you would like to increase your odds of losing, then you say it is relative and situational.


The league average on 4th down this season has been 47% - (89/189), sorry.
Source (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/downs)


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I do not get this at all. 99.999%? Of course, it is situational. What side of field you on, what is score, how much time left on and on.

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I do not get this at all. 99.999%? Of course, it is situational. What side of field you on, what is score, how much time left on and on.

Yes, all that is factored in. You should still go for it pretty much every time. It will increase your chances of winning the game.

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