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once again,Josh-2013

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I'd rather have him here! I wanted Cutler as a "franchise guy" and McCown to be brought back too. You can't ignore 13 TD to one INT. You just can't!!

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
once again,Josh-2013

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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I'd rather have him here! I wanted Cutler as a "franchise guy" and McCown to be brought back too. You can't ignore 13 TD to one INT. You just can't!!


I can do anything I want, jimmy.

I was onboard the "Trestman can make anybody good" train but I'm off that train now. McCown sucks. I'm glad for him and his family that he parlayed a couple good games into 10 mildo but he sucks and he always has.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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McCown had one hell of a season in 2013! He pinpointed a lot of balls right into a WR's hands.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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I want to see Mccown come to chicago and win. As much as I dislike lovie, this will be the bottoming out this organization needs, because I am not sure the McCaskeys get it.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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McCown had one hell of a season in 2013! He pinpointed a lot of balls right into a WR's hands.
He also threw a few up them up for grabs and Jeffery was able to make circus catches and bring them in.

Lets not forget, the Bears averages 28 points with Cutler starting in 2013

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McCown had one hell of a season in 2013! He pinpointed a lot of balls right into a WR's hands.
He also threw a few up them up for grabs and Jeffery was able to make circus catches and bring them in.

Lets not forget, the Bears averages 28 points with Cutler starting in 2013


Actually, they averaged 24 points in the games Cutler played more than a few snaps.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Looking at average points is probably a waste of time anyway. Look at yesterday...one TD came on a return, and both of them came long after the game was essentially over. As far as I'm concerned, the Bears offense scored zero "contested" points yesterday.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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He's had a lot of bad luck with offensive guys since he has been a Bear. Trestman is at the level of a Terry Shea.

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C'mon Nas. What has Cutler done to help himself? He has 190some turnovers in ~115 career games. You simply cannot win when your QB turns the ball over that many times.

It is literally impossible to continue to defend Cutler at this point. Even Dr Ken admitted he was wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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He's had a lot of bad luck with offensive guys since he has been a Bear. Trestman is at the level of a Terry Shea.
If I get punched in the face once, it was probably the other guys fault. If I get punched in the face all the time, it is probably my fault.

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C'mon Nas. What has Cutler done to help himself? He has 190some turnovers in ~115 career games. You simply cannot win when your QB turns the ball over that many times.

It is literally impossible to continue to defend Cutler at this point. Even Dr Ken admitted he was wrong.


Stop making things up. This defense and Trestman's play calling hasn't done him any favors. If he doesn't score a touchdown on every possession the Bears will lose. Yesterday they were supposed to run the football and Trestman called 1 running play out of the first 10 plays. Before Cutler could check his blood sugar levels the Bears were down by 21.

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He's had a lot of bad luck with offensive guys since he has been a Bear. Trestman is at the level of a Terry Shea.
If I get punched in the face once, it was probably the other guys fault. If I get punched in the face all the time, it is probably my fault.


Which guy was good? Every one of them are out of the league or will be soon. He has been forced to work with garbage coaches.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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C'mon Nas. What has Cutler done to help himself? He has 190some turnovers in ~115 career games. You simply cannot win when your QB turns the ball over that many times.

It is literally impossible to continue to defend Cutler at this point. Even Dr Ken admitted he was wrong.


Stop making things up. This defense and Trestman's play calling hasn't done him any favors. If he doesn't score a touchdown on every possession the Bears will lose. Yesterday they were supposed to run the football and Trestman called 1 running play out of the first 10 plays. Before Cutler could check his blood sugar levels the Bears were down by 21.


There is some truth there. But, Cutler needs to be good enough to get some first downs and keep those guys off the field.

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He's had a lot of bad luck with offensive guys since he has been a Bear. Trestman is at the level of a Terry Shea.
If I get punched in the face once, it was probably the other guys fault. If I get punched in the face all the time, it is probably my fault.


Which guy was good? Every one of them are out of the league or will be soon. He has been forced to work with garbage coaches.


Yes, it would seem that Jay Cutler is a coach-killer.

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Which guy was good? Every one of them are out of the league or will be soon. He has been forced to work with garbage coaches.
Most offensive coordinators don't have great resumes. That is why they are coordinators.

There just comes a point when we should look less at what is constantly changing and instead at what isn't changing.

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He's had a lot of bad luck with offensive guys since he has been a Bear. Trestman is at the level of a Terry Shea.
If I get punched in the face once, it was probably the other guys fault. If I get punched in the face all the time, it is probably my fault.


Which guy was good? Every one of them are out of the league or will be soon. He has been forced to work with garbage coaches.


Yes, it would seem that Jay Cutler is a coach-killer.


Mr. Orange loved him. If you can't get Harbaugh I would call him. Martz, Tice and Trestman could make a man kill himself.

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 Post subject: Re: Jay Cutler
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Mr. Orange loved him. If you can't get Harbaugh I would call him. Martz, Tice and Trestman could make a man kill himself.
Shannahan?

Cutler got Shannahan fired too. :lol:

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C'mon Nas. What has Cutler done to help himself? He has 190some turnovers in ~115 career games. You simply cannot win when your QB turns the ball over that many times.

It is literally impossible to continue to defend Cutler at this point. Even Dr Ken admitted he was wrong.


Stop making things up. This defense and Trestman's play calling hasn't done him any favors. If he doesn't score a touchdown on every possession the Bears will lose. Yesterday they were supposed to run the football and Trestman called 1 running play out of the first 10 plays. Before Cutler could check his blood sugar levels the Bears were down by 21.


There is some truth there. But, Cutler needs to be good enough to get some first downs and keep those guys off the field.


I agree. Trestman's predictable play calling and starting every fucking drive inside your own 10 doesn't help.

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Mr. Orange loved him. If you can't get Harbaugh I would call him. Martz, Tice and Trestman could make a man kill himself.
Shannahan?

Cutler got Shannahan fired too. :lol:


I thought the defense did that. Cutler was coming off a pro bowl year.

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I don't have any answers but Trestman's probably got PSTD from all the pick sixes and fumbles. He's play calling scared.

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Nas wrote:
Stop making things up.
Cutler has 113 career games, 122 career INTs, 52 career fumbles lost. So thats 174 turnovers in 113 games. Sorry for the gross inaccuracy.


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This defense and Trestman's play calling hasn't done him any favors.
They have not, but I ask again, what has Cutler done to help himself?

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Before Cutler could check his blood sugar levels the Bears were down by 21.
7 points off yet another Cutler INT to make to 14-0. So then Cutler gets the ball back with a chance to answer and maybe swing some of the momentum back the Bears way and here is what happens; overthrowns Marshall down the near sideline, 1 yard bubble screen to Jeffrey, then another poor pass out of bounds and on comes the punt team. Pack then go up 21-0, Bears get 1 first down and then punt again.

Cutler had several chances to take control of the game and at least give the Bears a chance by answering some of GBs scores and he could not do it. It was the same thing in New England, Nas. Cutler couldn't do anything right. No points to even help keep the game close. He cannot be defended anymore, Nas. You are attempting to defend the indefensible.

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Nas wrote:
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C'mon Nas. What has Cutler done to help himself? He has 190some turnovers in ~115 career games. You simply cannot win when your QB turns the ball over that many times.

It is literally impossible to continue to defend Cutler at this point. Even Dr Ken admitted he was wrong.


Stop making things up. This defense and Trestman's play calling hasn't done him any favors. If he doesn't score a touchdown on every possession the Bears will lose. Yesterday they were supposed to run the football and Trestman called 1 running play out of the first 10 plays. Before Cutler could check his blood sugar levels the Bears were down by 21.


There is some truth there. But, Cutler needs to be good enough to get some first downs and keep those guys off the field.


I agree. Trestman's predictable play calling and starting every fucking drive inside your own 10 doesn't help.


It doesn't. But Cutler is being paid to overcome that crap. At least a couple times.

I don't expect Cutler to win these games 56-55 but he's not even competing at this point.

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Which guy was good? Every one of them are out of the league or will be soon. He has been forced to work with garbage coaches.
Most offensive coordinators don't have great resumes. That is why they are coordinators.

There just comes a point when we should look less at what is constantly changing and instead at what isn't changing.


Ownership's hiring of terrible football people?

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Maybe if they didnt spend $18 million on a guy that is not a positive difference maker they would have been able to afford decent defensive players. Although with Tucker still around I'm not sure any defense they put out there would have mattered.

Last night's game broke me. I cant watch anymore of this fucking team.

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Mr. Orange loved him. If you can't get Harbaugh I would call him. Martz, Tice and Trestman could make a man kill himself.
Shannahan?

Cutler got Shannahan fired too. :lol:


I thought the defense did that. Cutler was coming off a pro bowl year.
He was having a year similar to this. Decent numbers that lie.

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It doesn't. But Cutler is being paid to overcome that crap. At least a couple times.

I don't expect Cutler to win these games 56-55 but he's not even competing at this point.


I think he's checked out. He's complained publicly about the play calling and he knows he can't call the defense out.

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It doesn't. But Cutler is being paid to overcome that crap. At least a couple times.

I don't expect Cutler to win these games 56-55 but he's not even competing at this point.


I think he's checked out. He's complained publicly about the play calling and he knows he can't call the defense out.


Then he's just cashing checks. Because even when he was getting sacked every snap or besides himself with Martz or J'Marcus, I don't think he ever quit.

He's got his contract now and doesn't really care.

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