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Didn't Greg Schiano come in and not only destroy an ok team but also give the entire team a staph infection? I feel like that's worse than what Trestman has done so far.

The Bucs have a pirate ship and a Super Bowl in this millenium. Much better organization.


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Didn't Greg Schiano come in and not only destroy an ok team but also give the entire team a staph infection? I feel like that's worse than what Trestman has done so far.

The Bucs have a pirate ship and a Super Bowl in this millenium. Much better organization.

Maybe I need to get Frank in here to explain to you that we are currently discussing if Trestman is the worst coaching hire ever.

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Didn't Greg Schiano come in and not only destroy an ok team but also give the entire team a staph infection? I feel like that's worse than what Trestman has done so far.

The Bucs have a pirate ship and a Super Bowl in this millenium. Much better organization.

Maybe I need to get Frank in here to explain to you that we are currently discussing if Trestman is the worst coaching hire ever.

Please don't.


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Oh, fuck

I dont know why I keep thinking they were 9-7

finishing AT .500 still puts him ahead of a few guys.



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Trestman may end up being one of the worst coaching hires in NFL history.

Finishing over .500 last year guarantees that wont be the case.

I agree that its really bad though
He inherited a 10-6 team and absolutely destroyed it in a little over one calendar year and likely will be fired after his second year.

Yep.

Im just saying there are guys who have been worse.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Trestman may end up being one of the worst coaching hires in NFL history.

Finishing over .500 last year guarantees that wont be the case.

I agree that its really bad though
He inherited a 10-6 team and absolutely destroyed it in a little over one calendar year and likely will be fired after his second year.

Yep.

Im just saying there are guys who have been worse.
Record wise there certainly is but I'd be interested to know if any coach inherited a ten win team and was fired two years later.

Trestman may need his own category.

He's like the guy who is born on third base and then goes back to second base illegally, but being born on a base is also probably illegal.

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Didn't Greg Schiano come in and not only destroy an ok team but also give the entire team a staph infection? I feel like that's worse than what Trestman has done so far.

The Bucs have a pirate ship and a Super Bowl in this millenium. Much better organization.

Maybe I need to get Frank in here to explain to you that we are currently discussing if Trestman is the worst coaching hire ever.
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Record wise there certainly is but I'd be interested to know if any coach inherited a ten win team and was fired two years later.


Josh McDaniels took over for Shanahan who just went 8-8.

McDaniels went 8-8, then 3-9 and got fired after 12 games.

And that was just an 8 win team.

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And he had the superstar Kyle Orton at QB!

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Spurrier will probably be worse though.


All that limp dick did was bring in former Gators. Awful ones, at that. Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Jacquez Green, etc. Please don't ever bring this up again. I had forgotten about it.

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Spurrier will probably be worse though.


All that limp dick did was bring in former Gators. Awful ones, at that. Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Jacquez Green, etc. Please don't ever bring this up again. I had forgotten about it.

Why can't your quarterback get along with anyone and why does he want to throw his teammates under the bus? Gruden was fucking pissed the other day.

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The Broncos fired Dan Reeves after going 8-8 and hired Wade Phillips.

Phillips went 9-7, 7-9 and then got fired for losing control of the team.

Shanahan came in and won 21 games the next 2 years.

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The Raiders are miles ahead of the field in this one.


Make all things equal....Oakland v chicago markets, are the Bears really that far ahead?

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The Broncos fired Dan Reeves after going 8-8 and hired Wade Phillips.

Phillips went 9-7, 7-9 and then got fired for losing control of the team.

Shanahan came in and won 21 games the next 2 years.
Thanks. Interesting stuff.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The Broncos fired Dan Reeves after going 8-8 and hired Wade Phillips.

Phillips went 9-7, 7-9 and then got fired for losing control of the team.

Shanahan came in and won 21 games the next 2 years.
Thanks. Interesting stuff.

Keep going.


I think that's about it. It's hard to find a list of coaches that were fired after winning records.

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The Raiders are miles ahead of the field in this one.


Make all things equal....Oakland v chicago markets, are the Bears really that far ahead?

Yes. Comfortably.

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Spurrier will probably be worse though.


All that limp dick did was bring in former Gators. Awful ones, at that. Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Jacquez Green, etc. Please don't ever bring this up again. I had forgotten about it.

Why can't your quarterback get along with anyone and why does he want to throw his teammates under the bus? Gruden was fucking pissed the other day.


I wish I knew. He's definitely worn out his welcome. I believe RGIII's contract is up next here, at which point the team (hopefully sooner) will be finding his replacement. I have a hard time believing there is a worse NFL organization than Washington. Maybe Oakland, but that's it.

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I wish I knew. He's definitely worn out his welcome. I believe RGIII's contract is up next here, at which point the team (hopefully sooner) will be finding his replacement. I have a hard time believing there is a worse NFL organization than Washington. Maybe Oakland, but that's it.


So...uh...hey, greg...uh...hey...so...what are you guys going to do with Kirk Cousins? I'm just asking for a friend.

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I wish I knew. He's definitely worn out his welcome. I believe RGIII's contract is up next here, at which point the team (hopefully sooner) will be finding his replacement. I have a hard time believing there is a worse NFL organization than Washington. Maybe Oakland, but that's it.


So...uh...hey, greg...uh...hey...so...what are you guys going to do with Kirk Cousins? I'm just asking for a friend.


Taking whatever they can get for him! Think his value peaked long ago.

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Didn't Greg Schiano come in and not only destroy an ok team but also give the entire team a staph infection? I feel like that's worse than what Trestman has done so far.


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Hawg Ass wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spurrier will probably be worse though.


All that limp dick did was bring in former Gators. Awful ones, at that. Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerffel, Jacquez Green, etc. Please don't ever bring this up again. I had forgotten about it.

Why can't your quarterback get along with anyone and why does he want to throw his teammates under the bus? Gruden was fucking pissed the other day.


RG triple sticks is done in DC. He will most likely end up being a journeyman backup QB. Funny how RGlll, Cam, Colin, all were really good early in their careers but are now struggling. Perhaps the zone read doesn't translate all that well to the NFL, although the Niners don't run it much anymore.

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I wish I knew. He's definitely worn out his welcome. I believe RGIII's contract is up next here, at which point the team (hopefully sooner) will be finding his replacement. I have a hard time believing there is a worse NFL organization than Washington. Maybe Oakland, but that's it.


So...uh...hey, greg...uh...hey...so...what are you guys going to do with Kirk Cousins? I'm just asking for a friend.


Taking whatever they can get for him! Think his value peaked long ago.


I'd trade a 6th round pick for him.

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Now I'm stuck with four of his jerseys and a chihuahua named Griffin :(

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Now I'm stuck with four of his jerseys and a chihuahua named Griffin :(


:lol: :lol: :lol: That is hilarious.

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Now I'm stuck with four of his jerseys and a chihuahua named Griffin :(


:lol: :lol: :lol: That is hilarious.


Ha. At least the jerseys didn't cost much. And the dog is awesome, regardless of the fact he's named after an asshole.

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RG triple sticks is done in DC. He will most likely end up being a journeyman backup QB. Funny how RGlll, Cam, Colin, all were really good early in their careers but are now struggling. Perhaps the zone read doesn't translate all that well to the NFL, although the Niners don't run it much anymore.


how people keep missing the fact that option QB's have a short lifespan in the NFL i have no idea. it's like they don't want to believe it. it'll happen to jameis winston too.

cam seems to be vince younging while griffin has already burned himself out. same with geno smith.


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RG triple sticks is done in DC. He will most likely end up being a journeyman backup QB. Funny how RGlll, Cam, Colin, all were really good early in their careers but are now struggling. Perhaps the zone read doesn't translate all that well to the NFL, although the Niners don't run it much anymore.


how people keep missing the fact that option QB's have a short lifespan in the NFL i have no idea. it's like they don't want to believe it. it'll happen to jameis winston too.

cam seems to be vince younging while griffin has already burned himself out. same with geno smith.

Cam's been hurt all year. He's miles better right now than Vince Young ever was. I dont think he's going anywhere.

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young had a few good years and even made the pro bowl. cam has a lot more potential than those other guys but i don't know if he'll have the shelf life.


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